QUEBEC APPLICANTS LETS SHARE EXPERIENCE

[swamik]

this is too difficult for me to reach to b2b2
i nead at least 6 months
and i don`t know what to do know ???
send application for withdraw my file or let it there and they will give me the chance ??
and what about fees they will take the fees if my points don`t reach the wanted level they need for accepting the file
this is big problem they are not faire
now i am sure on the new rules right ??

Hi,

You are on the new rule only and there is no confusion in it, you have two options,

1. wait till the immigration dept return the file, They will return it with your money, mentioning that you are lacking points. There is again a chance they will give you time and ask you to submit the upgraded score. Depends on the officials view

2. you can send the withdrawal request and send back the new score once you have, anyway the application will be sent to you with the fees. Also you may have to check the withdrawal

http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/informations/rules-procedures.html specifically

under Note to candidates under the Regular Skilled Worker Program

you should feel better with a B1, and not too far for B2. Note, there are many who are in a1 A2 and all those, will find it difficult to reach the B2 level

 

[frege]

i don`t know the way to go to Quebec to study french
is it available easy ??
how i can do this ??
and what is the cost of studying french in Quebec ???

In order for your time studying to give you 5 points for a stay in Quebec, you would need to take 12 credits at a university during an entire term. (12 credits is full-time.) 5 points for:

Séjour à des fins d’études si l’étude a constitué sa principale
activité pendant au moins une session régulière à temps plein

Les cours de langues suivis dans un établissement d’enseignement
postsecondaire reconnu par le MELS ou dans une université peuvent
permettre d’allouer des points pour un séjour à des fins d’études, si le but
principal du séjour a été l’étude. En contrepartie, les cours de langues suivis
dans des instituts privés ne peuvent être considérés comme un séjour à des
fins d’études et sont évalués comme « autre séjour »

Source: http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=7&file=GPI-3-1.pdf


At Laval University, this would cost about $7,000 in fees and $4,000 in living expenses:

http://www.elul.ulaval.ca/nos-cours/francais-langue-etrangere/cours-de-15-semaines/couts/

http://www.elul.ulaval.ca/fileadmin/elul/fichiers/nos-cours/francais-langue-etrangere/cours-15_sem/couts/Tarifs_FLE_frn_A_2013.pdf

It would probably be similar at other universities.

In this kind of full-time program, if you have a study permit then you will be legally eligible for on-campus employment. You could find out whether the university you'd be interested in could offer this.

Another option would be to begin studying for a master's degree (e.g., in chemistry) from a Quebec university (1.5 years). The tuition would be about $12,000/year for a foreign student. After six months of studies, you would be eligible for an off-campus work permit.

There is a rule that says that if you are in a bachelor's program and are taking certain French courses, then you can be exempted from the fees for foreign students for those credits. So for example, you could register for a bachelor's degree in French as a second language, and you would pay low tuition (like a Quebec student), but only for the eligible French courses. After staying for one term, you would get your five points. Tuition would be about $1,500 per term if you were able to fill your entire schedule with eligible French courses.

http://www.mcgill.ca/legaldocuments/fr/exemption (See no. 5)
http://www.flsh.ulaval.ca/index.php?id=347
http://www2.ulaval.ca/les-etudes/programmes/repertoire/details/baccalaureat-en-francais-langue-seconde-ba.html

So in this case, you would have to pretend to the university that you wanted to do an entire degree in French, but you could stop after one term.

 

[mdammalli]

Am too conveying the same thing but the languages rules became mandatory after December 6 2011 for both French and IELTS.That is what I mentioned ..

Hey, do you mean that new AOT system rules applies to old applicant also?

I have not heard anything from BIQ apart from my AOR which I received on 29th December 2011. My application reached BIQ on 26/27th November 2011.

Is old language points and new AOT points apply to me?

 

[swamik]

Hey, do you mean that new AOT system rules applies to old applicant also?

I have not heard anything from BIQ apart from my AOR which I received on 29th December 2011. My application reached BIQ on 26/27th November 2011.

Is old language points and new AOT points apply to me?

If you have not received any update from BIQ other than an AOR, then all the new rules will apply to you, language, AOT etc...that what is mentioned in

The new measures apply to you if, by August 1, 2013, you received one of the following documents from the Ministère:

an acknowledgement confirming that your file has been opened and the fees received;
an acknowledgement as well as a letter asking you to provide missing documents or conforming documents in order to process your application.

If, on August 1, 2013, you were in one of the situations described below, it means that your file has already being processed. Therefore, the new measures do not apply to you.

You were convened to a selection interview that will take place in the next few weeks or months;
You received a letter entitled “Demande en attente d’entrevue de selection” (application pending a selection interview) informing you that the initial evaluation of your application is complete and that you will soon be convened to an interview;
You received a letter entitled “Demande en attente de decision” (application pending a decision) informing you that we will contact you once a decision has been made;
You received a letter entitled “Intention de refus” (intent to refuse the application), informing you that you must submit other documents or information that will allow us to continue to review your file;
You have already had a selection interview and your file has not been finalized.

 

[mdammalli]

If you have not received any update from BIQ other than an AOR, then all the new rules will apply to you, language, AOT etc...that what is mentioned in

The new measures apply to you if, by August 1, 2013, you received one of the following documents from the Ministère:

an acknowledgement confirming that your file has been opened and the fees received;
an acknowledgement as well as a letter asking you to provide missing documents or conforming documents in order to process your application.

If, on August 1, 2013, you were in one of the situations described below, it means that your file has already being processed. Therefore, the new measures do not apply to you.

You were convened to a selection interview that will take place in the next few weeks or months;
You received a letter entitled “Demande en attente d'entrevue de selection” (application pending a selection interview) informing you that the initial evaluation of your application is complete and that you will soon be convened to an interview;
You received a letter entitled “Demande en attente de decision” (application pending a decision) informing you that we will contact you once a decision has been made;
You received a letter entitled “Intention de refus” (intent to refuse the application), informing you that you must submit other documents or information that will allow us to continue to review your file;
You have already had a selection interview and your file has not been finalized.

Almost all the people applied in 2011 has received only their AOR. It means that almost everyone will be falling under new point system.

what is the point of differentiating applications like before 6th December 2011 and After 6th December 2011?

Some officials representatives are giving wrong info in online sessions.

Anyways, I'm on the safe side because new rules giving me extra 6 points in AOT after taking away all my language points.

 

[mina_888]

Hi,

You are on the new rule only and there is no confusion in it, you have two options,

1. wait till the immigration dept return the file, They will return it with your money, mentioning that you are lacking points. There is again a chance they will give you time and ask you to submit the upgraded score. Depends on the officials view

2. you can send the withdrawal request and send back the new score once you have, anyway the application will be sent to you with the fees. Also you may have to check the withdrawal


under Note to candidates under the Regular Skilled Worker Program

you should feel better with a B1, and not too far for B2. Note, there are many who are in a1 A2 and all those, will find it difficult to reach the B2 level

thnx a lot for your advice ...... this is very good site for helping and advising people
but are you sure that if i let my file till they send it to me beacause of lacking points they will send my money "cheaqe" again ??
because i don`t trust them any more they cheat me and cheat alot of people so :S

 

[mina_888]

Hi Mina,

I'm sorry to hear about this. I don't know enough about the system to tell you what to do.

If you need to re-apply, you could come to Quebec to study French for an entire semester at a cegep or university, and that will add 5 points to your total just for visiting Quebec as a student. Maybe you could get the points for reaching B2 as well! The extra 5 points for visiting Quebec might help you avoid the need for an interview.

merci beaucoup
this is good idea
but i think it will cost alot
so it will not good for me at this time
i pay alot of money to pass TCFQ and IELTS and preparing my offical papers
i want to know what shout i do to save my chance and save my fees "cheaque " also
withdraw my file of let it and they will return it with my fees ??

 

[swamik]

thnx a lot for your advice ...... this is very good site for helping and advising people
but are you sure that if i let my file till they send it to me beacause of lacking points they will send my money "cheaqe" again ??
because i don`t trust them any more they cheat me and cheat alot of people so :S

No one can say how the immigration department can handle a case. And i cannot find any official info on how the immigration department deals with a file if it does not satisfy the required point threshold. But, the section Receipt of the application says about the return of application in http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/permanent-workers/official-immigration-application/selection-process/

which says the file will be returned and i have heard of many cases in this forum for whom the file was returned along with the DD, with the lack of points or lack of supporting documents, hence i would suggest to wait, but anyway its your call and your money that is to decide on your course of action...

 

[swamik]

Almost all the people applied in 2011 has received only their AOR. It means that almost everyone will be falling under new point system.

what is the point of differentiating applications like before 6th December 2011 and After 6th December 2011?

Some officials representatives are giving wrong info in online sessions.

Anyways, I'm on the safe side because new rules giving me extra 6 points in AOT after taking away all my language points.

Is there any official differentiation for the pre dec 2011 or after dec 2011 ? the only differentiation is based on the completion of the process or just received the AOR, hence all whom there is no movement in the file beyond AOR, will be considered in new rule as per the link i have sent.. anyway, its nice that you have more points on your kitty now..great

 

[Sairam]

Hi to All,

I am writing again for not having confirmation on the level of 10+3 education in nursing that my spouse has.Many immigration consultancy here in my country has announced advertisement of PR under Quebec skilled category for nurses from 3 yrs certificate level nursing course up to master degree in nursing.My question here isoes my spouse course fall on the category of DCS nursing? Answer to my query will be highly admired.

 

[mdammalli]

Is there any official differentiation for the pre dec 2011 or after dec 2011 ? the only differentiation is based on the completion of the process or just received the AOR, hence all whom there is no movement in the file beyond AOR, will be considered in new rule as per the link i have sent.. anyway, its nice that you have more points on your kitty now..great

Thanks swamik..

Well, there is no official differentiation but some official representatives, in online sessions has used these terms like applications received before 6th Dec2011 and after 6th Dec 2011..

 

[swamik]

Thanks swamiji..

Well, there is no official differentiation but some official representatives, in online sessions has used these terms like applications received before 6th Dec2011 and after 6th Dec 2011..

hae i am not a swamiji... and its bad time for swamijis nowadays ;-)

 

[mdammalli]

hae i am not a swamiji... and its bad time for swamijis nowadays ;-)

Ha ha ha... Very true.. people are ashamed using the name tage 'swami' because of swamiji....
I apologize to you and corrected it now..

 

[zein]

hi everyone,
I applied in Jan 2011, then received my file number in Aug 2011, but never heard from them after that. Does that mean new rules apply on me?
and is there anyway for me to be 100% sure?
thanks in advance.

 

[swamik]

hi everyone,
I applied in Jan 2011, then received my file number in Aug 2011, but never heard from them after that. Does that mean new rules apply on me?
and is there anyway for me to be 100% sure?
thanks in advance.

You can call BIQ montreal for an absolute perfect answer, however, my belief is you will be in new rules, if no update beyond AOR