Titoualfruk said:
Do not forget also that it all seems to be at the discretion of the immigration officer, even if you have enough points it is upto the immigration officer to give interview waiver or not.
It seems that even if you have enough points, they could still ask you to come to an interview, so even having a rock solid file may require an interview.
It will be interesting to see what happens with our application, we have a solid application, sent all the paperwork and proof at the start along with TEFAQ C1 and C2 points, and have somewhere around the 65-70 points mark and both live in France. It will be interesting to see what happens to us. I will keep you guys posted to see what happens with us, I am hoping for the waiver too as can't be bothered to plan a trip to Paris for an interview.
Little tip by the way:
It is always a good idea, if it is possible to get any copies, certified and conform by the Canadien consulat/embassy nearest to you, I was told by the lady at the Consulat here that it helps with the authenticity of the documents if the originals are seen by an agent of the Candian government and they are certified by them. it costs a small fortune 15€ per copy but I think in the long run it's worth it.
I am sure, wherever they can, they will require french. But if someone has 55/63 without french, they have no legal reason for an interview, at least not because of french knowledge (and many nurses/computer engineers now have 55/63, because of the increased points in AOT and revoked points in french).
About your case, what AOT code did you use in your application? I see 2242 as NOC, but can not find it in AOT list. I think they do not look at points, only at AOT code for priority, but once your preliminary examination is finally done, I am sure you will get instant waiver.
IS there any pass marks like at least 16 in both listening and speaking to be eligible for points or just pass B2 and get the points and similar for reading and writing??
I believe 16 in each module is the minimum to claim the point...
rsb80 said:
IS there any pass marks like at least 16 in both listening and speaking to be eligible for points or just pass B2 and get the points and similar for reading and writing??
oszi said:
I am sure, wherever they can, they will require french. But if someone has 55/63 without french, they have no legal reason for an interview, at least not because of french knowledge (and many nurses/computer engineers now have 55/63, because of the increased points in AOT and revoked points in french).
About your case, what AOT code did you use in your application? I see 2242 as NOC, but can not find it in AOT list. I think they do not look at points, only at AOT code for priority, but once your preliminary examination is finally done, I am sure you will get instant waiver.
Principal applicant has a PHD in Physical Science, but we applied using the masters because he had not gained the phd at the time of applying (so masters physical science is 6 points) but is covered by mutual recognition agreement as it is French diploma, and French and Québec diplomas are mutually recognised. Ignore the NOC code it's not correct for the principal applicant.
BTW I asked about the Doctorat and Priority and I did not get a straight answer, she just said that is was in our interest to send the update with the diploma. We had already applied with a masters in the same subject so already had 12 points for Education (max points for level of education), I do not see what the extra is that a phd could add to this as this is also 12 points. It must add something or she would not have told us to send the update...
I got 66 points(without adaptability) this means I have bigger chance to be interview waived? even without french exam.
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Dipolog said:
I got 66 points(without adaptability) this means I have bigger chance to be interview waived? even without french exam.
I think above 55/63, it depends more on the authenticity, detail and number of supporting documents / language exam attestations attached, than on the number of points.
mina_888 said:
so the date point of AOT is given according to it is date of AOR ??
because i want to take a decision about continue in french and reach to B2 or not
i am graduated may 2009 Chemistry
and i send my file 23 / 7 / 2013 after 4 years of graduation
they will begin the examination after more than 5 years of graduation
and i am not working in my specialist
would i get my points of AOT or no ???
the AOT points gived according to which date ???
- date of recevied file ??
- date of file number given ??
- or date of preliminary examination ?
i don`t need to face another problem beside problem of 8 french points i lose and 6 points of 12 i lose also
so i need if i still have to work for B2 and i will have the 6 points of AOT even if they begin preliminary examination after 5 years of graduation and not work in this specialist but they revieve my file after 4 years only
hey people why no one reply to me
i need to take decision
go on for B2 or not
i will gain my AOT points or not
i send my file after 4 years of graduation
but it will be complete and i will reach B2 after 5 years of graduation
they give points according to which date ??
- date of recevied file ??
- date of file number given ??
- or date of preliminary examination ?
venkateshkrec said:
Hi Geo,
Yeah, Ievgen helped us with such a crucial information. I am thinking of submitting the order now as soon as possible. BTW we can together coordinate and help each other on how to submit the Order asap. Where are you residing ?
Thanks
Venka, I am from the Caribbean, Jamaica to be exact. I went to the website and complete the online forms at https://contacts.ocq.qc.ca/MemberRegistration/Default.aspx. I am now requesting transcripts and job letter.
I believe many should be in a similar situation like mine..If the primary applicant is a Computer Engineering graduate, however, the experience is in software engineering, and the graduation was complete before 7 years, will the experience be considered as in the related field and given 8 points, or there will not be any point for experience.. ??
Halloo,
when I applied to CSQ on May 2011,it wasn't required to submit the French and English results for any test.
I have submitted a letter from my University that all our studies is done in French language and in addition to that I did my master in Lyon -France.
also I have submitted a result of an English test called BULATS done online in our organization where I'm working and it was delivered to us by Cambridge University.
I have the below points when I applied:
1- Age 31 (when I applied): 16 points
2- Children below 12 (two): 8 points
3- Professional Experience(more than 48 months: 8 Points
4- Last diploma (Master 1 Business management and administration of Enterprises):10 Points
5- Field Of Education: (Business Administration) 6 points same with the new rules
6- Adaptability & Financial Autonomy: 4 points
Spouse
1- Age : 3 points
2- Last diploma (master 2): 3 Points
3- Field of Education: 2 points
So in total it's 60 points without taking in consideration the French and the English points
if they consider my level in French and English as Moderate they should add the below points:
1- French - Speaking : 6 Points
2- French - Listening: 6 Points
3- English – Listening: 3 Points
4- English – Speaking : 3 Points
Total Language proficiency : 18 Points
Also regarding my Spouse she did master 2 professional and master 2 research in France so she normally should get 6 points for the French Speaking and listening.
So the total 84 points
In May 2013 I have submitted an amendment to my file by adding my Brother in Law as permanent resident in Quebec it will add to me 3 points(not yet updated to my file)
So the new total will be 87 points.
Let us consider that I got 65 points in total so should be a waiver from the interview still it's not the case.
Don't be so optimist with this immigration process and all hope that at the end they will call us for an interview and not refund us the process fees and return back us to the start bottom.
Any one from 2011 CSQ applicant has received an interview call?
Thank you for replying on my post if I have a misunderstanding on the above.
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jimmy80 said:
Halloo,
when I applied to CSQ on May 2011,it wasn't required to submit the French and English results for any test.
I have submitted a letter from my University that all our studies is done in French language and in addition to that I did my master in Lyon -France.
also I have submitted a result of an English test called BULATS done online in our organization where I'm working and it was delivered to us by Cambridge University.
I have the below points when I applied:
1- Age 31 (when I applied): 16 points
2- Children below 12 (two): 8 points
3- Professional Experience(more than 48 months: 8 Points
4- Last diploma (Master 1 Business management and administration of Enterprises):10 Points
5- Field Of Education: (Business Administration) 6 points same with the new rules
6- Adaptability & Financial Autonomy: 4 points
Spouse
1- Age : 3 points
2- Last diploma (master 2): 3 Points
3- Field of Education: 2 points
So in total it's 60 points without taking in consideration the French and the English points
if they consider my level in French and English as Moderate they should add the below points:
1- French - Speaking : 6 Points
2- French - Listening: 6 Points
3- English – Listening: 3 Points
4- English – Speaking : 3 Points
Total Language proficiency : 18 Points
Also regarding my Spouse she did master 2 professional and master 2 research in France so she normally should get 6 points for the French Speaking and listening.
So the total 84 points
In May 2013 I have submitted an amendment to my file by adding my Brother in Law as permanent resident in Quebec it will add to me 3 points(not yet updated to my file)
So the new total will be 87 points.
Let us consider that I got 65 points in total so should be a waiver from the interview still it's not the case.
Don't be so optimist with this immigration process and all hope that at the end they will call us for an interview and not refund us the process fees and return back us to the start bottom.
Any one from 2011 CSQ applicant has received an interview call?
Thank you for replying on my post if I have a misunderstanding on the above.
Hi Jimmy80, based on the processing times as in the BIQ site, people from Lebenon should have been invited for interview or the processing complete if the application is before Jan 2011, but, actually, I am surprised that you have very high score and not being processed quickly.. Possible that you have been shortlisted in interview list soon, and no waiver for your case....Keep us posted in the development, also you can email and ask for the status
swamik said:
I believe many should be in a similar situation like mine..If the primary applicant is a Computer Engineering graduate, however, the experience is in software engineering, and the graduation was complete before 7 years, will the experience be considered as in the related field and given 8 points, or there will not be any point for experience.. ??
the examiner can play with this from 8 points to zero .. be careful
swamik said:
Hi Jimmy80, based on the processing times as in the BIQ site, people from Lebenon should have been invited for interview or the processing complete if the application is before Jan 2011, but, actually, I am surprised that you have very high score and not being processed quickly.. Possible that you have been shortlisted in interview list soon, and no waiver for your case....Keep us posted in the development, also you can email and ask for the status
thank you Swamik,
by the way i'm Damas BIQ applicant.
it was mentioned at that time to send the application directly to Montreal since i'm a resident in Qatar.
signalmaker said:
the examiner can play with this from 8 points to zero .. be careful
signalmaker thank you for the info, Assuming I received my AOR and without 8 points I would not have crossed the threshold of 57 for applicants with spouse, can I safely assume that I was awarded the 8 points ?
Hi every body.
I need your help to calculate my points for immigration to Quebec
I sent my file on 10 December 2011. and according to the new law of 1st of august 2013, i would like to review again my chances.
i have passed the Dalf C1 with total score 50 of 100, i was really very lucky to pass it.
my points are:
speaking: 16
listening : 12
reading : 11
writing : 11
so, according to the new rules, how many points i could obtain.
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