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Well, here goes nothing - according to USPS/Canada Post tracking, CPP-O now has the additional documentation they wanted. I wonder how long it will take for them to make a decision...
Shylock, for some reason it won't let me change my profile or direct message you with my details. Would you mind adding my timeline to the CPP -OTT spreadsheet? I did an outland spousal application for my US husband.
App RecieveD: June 4th, 2012
Sponsorship Approval: October 10th, 2012
PPR Received: February 21, 2013
COPR: Still Waiting...
Well, here goes nothing - according to USPS/Canada Post tracking, CPP-O now has the additional documentation they wanted. I wonder how long it will take for them to make a decision...
At four years you definitely have the option to go to court and ask for Mandamus - and unless there is some very good reason for the delay, CIC would likely lose. Of course, most Mandamus requests never make it to hearing because just the filing of a Mandamus application leads to a large bonfire being lit under CIC so they find and finish the application.
At four years you definitely have the option to go to court and ask for Mandamus - and unless there is some very good reason for the delay, CIC would likely lose. Of course, most Mandamus requests never make it to hearing because just the filing of a Mandamus application leads to a large bonfire being lit under CIC so they find and finish the application.
gsize was rejected, appealed, and won. Sponsor approved in August 2012, and is now in the "normal" queue - though you'd think they could hurry the [censored] up for someone who has waited so long...
Hooray for the "anomalies" column in the spreadsheet!
They have a process to accelerate processing through CPP-O for appeal cases (http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/resources/manuals/bulletins/2011/ob305.asp). "CPP-O creates the GCMS file, initiates mandatory checks (security checks only)" and only forwards the file to the original VO for files with complex admissibility risks.
Reading through the Bulletin again just now, gsize, the confusion regarding where your file was may be due to the procedure establishing that "CPP-O will not communicate with the client or the sponsor during this phase to avoid confusion for the client."
Reading through the Bulletin again just now, gsize, the confusion regarding where your file was may be due to the procedure establishing that "CPP-O will not communicate with the client or the sponsor during this phase to avoid confusion for the client."
LOL. "In order to not confuse the client, we won't tell them anything about what's going on."
Of course, that just takes someone who has already been dragged through the mud behind the CIC bus and makes them live with fear, uncertainty and doubt.
The one GOOD thing is that CIC doesn't seem to hold grudges in cases they lose on appeal and usually they process them reasonably quickly.
But yes, they get to reset the clock on a successful appeal case (though I've never read a court decision stating supporting this policy of CIC's as being reasonable under procedural fairness.)
Thanks! We shouldn't have any problems, but it still makes me incredibly nervous - if only because it would be a huge, time-consuming pain to appeal. The "intending to move to Canada" thing is such a weird thing to be asked to prove, especially when you have a couple that has lived together in various countries since 1994.
Thanks! We shouldn't have any problems, but it still makes me incredibly nervous - if only because it would be a huge, time-consuming pain to appeal. The "intending to move to Canada" thing is such a weird thing to be asked to prove, especially when you have a couple that has lived together in various countries since 1994.
I have also seen a bunch of people reporting this, but what I'm wondering is: How many instances are there of someone not get COPR after submitting follow-up documentation? Our documentation should be pretty solid, but I'm wondering what the line between "satisfactory" and "not satisfactory" proof of intent would be.
As a sponsor currently living my spouse outside of Canada, I have been wondering exactly the same thing. I have not been asked for my "proof of intent" yet, but I've been planning and compiling documentation....all without having any idea of what will be "enough". So far I haven't read of anyone on these forums that have been asked for proof that hasn't been accepted, but these requests seem all quite new, so it may be too early to tell.
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