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Hasni said:
wonderful, coming to TD option in my scenario, if i apply for TD, ... can't canadian embassy hold the processing of my PR cards, or may cancel them either while issuing a TD !
Anybody who has encountered such a situation, please share !
Please try to understand... What is happening to your PR card is NOTHING to do with your requirement for a TD to actually get on a plane and fly back to Canada... NOTHING...
It's very simple. You need either a PR card OR a TD to fly. You don't have a PR card (the reasons why is irrelevant), so you need a TD.. If you can get hold of your PR card, you don't require a TD as an alternative to board the plane.
zardoz said:
Please try to understand... What is happening to your PR card is NOTHING to do with your requirement for a TD to actually get on a plane and fly back to Canada... NOTHING...
It's very simple. You need either a PR card OR a TD to fly. You don't have a PR card (the reasons why is irrelevant), so you need a TD.. If you can get hold of your PR card, you don't require a TD as an alternative to board the plane.
bro just open the link and see under "who should not apply for TD", ...a valid PR card holder cannot apply for TD, thus in my scenario if my PR card is already delivered at the given address, I CAN NOT ! To be eligible to apply for a TD, the only way out for me is to attach a police report that it is lost, and once I get TD this way, ...I am bound to apply for new PR cards after landing, big hassle

Now coming to other scenario, where my PR cards are still under processing and I want to travel back to Canada, .... how embassy will respond to it, issue TD, hold processing of PR cards or cancel, will refuse issuing a TD....is not known.
You are not a "valid PR card holder" or we would not be in this thread. You cannot "hold" your PR card, because it is not in your possession. The instructions are not referring to if you are "entitled to hold". You need to "hold" your PR card up to the airline staff before they will let you board the aircraft. As you cannot, you must instead "hold" up a PR TD, issued in lieu of a PR card for this single journey. It is, after all, a single use document.
zardoz said:
You are not a "valid PR card holder" or we would not be in this thread. You cannot "hold" your PR card, because it is not in your possession. The instructions are not referring to if you are "entitled to hold". You need to "hold" your PR card up to the airline staff before they will let you board the aircraft. As you cannot, you must instead "hold" up a PR TD, issued in lieu of a PR card for this single journey. It is, after all, a single use document.
as per my understanding ... the terms "a valid PR card holder" and " possessing a valid PR cards" covey two different meanings. i can be a valid PR card holder even without having the possession of my PR card and quite understandably the same has been reflected in the above link that I attached. Otherwise it makes no sense that one in possession of valid PR card would go for a TD ! Thus in my case, if my PR card is already delivered at the given address in Canada, the system will show me as "a valid PR card holder",
I give up... Next please.
I've given up too. The question has been accurately answered several times now. I have nothing further to add to this discussion.
zardoz , scylia,
Pardon me for not been able to understand your point or conveying my point, appreciate your effort anyway, but still vow to struggle in order to get the clear picture, cheers
scylla, zardoz,
Pl let real life scenario bring to the notice, rather than academic discussion or interpretations.
As a landed immigrant, without PR card possession - when apply for visit visa - shall be rejected by Canadian embassy automatically. Then the whole situation will be understood automatically.
Anyway, getting a TD is also a cumbersome process; requiring filling up detailed form stating all your Canada's details. Also, if residency obligations are NOT met then bye bye to Canada situation will be the end result.
My friend (he was lucky enough got one life line), had exhausted his PR time fully in Abu Dhabi. Canadian embassy had forced him to resign from his job in UAE then Cancel his work visa from UAE....then only his TD was issued with a sentence that 'you shall meet 2 years residency obligations from now on.' This means that if he leaves Canada before getting new PR card (which will be processed only after completing 730 days + time to issue PR card, say 90-100 days) his PR status shall be revoked and he will not be Canadian PR any more. So this is the outcome of exhausting PR time or taking the PR status and working out of Canada for other reasons; such as money!
Life has taught him real good lesson, I had explain him & his family 100 times all about such situation but he didn't pay attention to my words. Now he & his family come to my home and say that 'You were right!'
Hasni said:
zardoz , scylia,
Pardon me for not been able to understand your point or conveying my point, appreciate your effort anyway, but still vow to struggle in order to get the clear picture, cheers
In simple words, you don't have the PR card in your hand till landing in Canada, although it is issued & possibly delivered at a Canadian address. In similar case, one of the forum member applied for TD & received it after a month with a validity of 6 months. He travelled with the TD (basically single-entry visa), landed & collected his PR cards of the entire family except one (Photo size not correct) form his friends address. Clear now?
Hasni said:
as per my understanding ... the terms "a valid PR card holder" and " possessing a valid PR cards" covey two different meanings. i can be a valid PR card holder even without having the possession of my PR card and quite understandably the same has been reflected in the above link that I attached. Otherwise it makes no sense that one in possession of valid PR card would go for a TD ! Thus in my case, if my PR card is already delivered at the given address in Canada, the system will show me as "a valid PR card holder",
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