QUEBEC APPLICANTS LETS SHARE EXPERIENCE

[Titoualfruk]

There is a difference here, if you are performing duties to cater to different geographies then it will be in English only, even if I am doing software development for Blackberry or Apple. However, the business will be run in French, thus, the internal communication will be in French, like, Salary Slip, confirmation letters, etc.

Ok so i am English
I live in France
I have an English speaking job
I Work for a French company

I am not the only person in an English speaking post.

All of our contracts, salary slips, paperwork, communications, telephone calls ect are allways ALLWAYS in French.

I already got screwed over with my contract because of my French level!!!

 

[khan123]

Unfortunately I think if you sent DELF A2 with less than 16 points in both listening and speaking, than they will just refuse... Were both modules below 16?

Otherwise the answer to the other question is that B2 in one module is enough, if you reach 49+ by that.

Dear Oszi...

yes... both below 16 in DELF A2... but didn't saw anywhere in the new Francization article regarding DELF scores... i think, they have only written regarding A2 level... are u 100% sure that they will refuse....??

fyi, without french... i've only 47 points & single applicant...

 

[oszi]

Dear Oszi...

yes... both below 16 in DELF A2... but didn't saw anywhere in the new Francization article regarding DELF scores... i think, they have only written regarding A2 level... are u 100% sure that they will refuse....??

fyi, without french... i've only 47 points & single applicant...

The table is in GPI-3-1... basically they do not consider DELF A2 as an A2 if scores are below 16... only an A1.

Page 45 in this:

http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=7&file=GPI-3-1.pdf

 

[proreo]

Education : BSc. in Computer Science and Engineering (4 years) + MBA in Finance (2 years) -----10+2=12 Points as old
Aot : Computer Science and Engineering -------6 points as old rules / ------- 12 points as new rules

How come you say that you have 12 points according to new rules for Computer Science? Are you trying to claim points for computer engineering?

 

[lemans207]

Quebec lost its economic importance since it took stance on language policy. Only if there is a inclusive growth can the success be guaranteed...Even in non English speaking countries in Europe, English has a significant place, which no one can deny. multi geography communication requires English. With all said, I am happy with my kid going to French school as knowing French is definitely an asset...

swamik... francophonie 77 countries, i got to know 77 since francophone olympic games in Nice France, correct me if wrong/

for your info, the people from the following countries know well french,spanish italian, swiss(french) luxamburg (french) belguim (french)
romania francophone, hungary they know french, +++++

maroc, algerie tunis liban syrie some egypt.

they lost economic importance because they want to separate only

 

[Titoualfruk]

Quebec lost its economic importance since it took stance on language policy. Only if there is a inclusive growth can the success be guaranteed...Even in non English speaking countries in Europe, English has a significant place, which no one can deny. multi geography communication requires English. With all said, I am happy with my kid going to French school as knowing French is definitely an asset...

The economy of Quebec, is diversified and post-industrial with an average potential for growth.[5] Manufacturing and the Service sectors dominate the economy. If Quebec were a country, its economy would be ranked the 44th largest in the world just behind Norway.[6] Quebec is also ranked the 21st largest in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The economy of Quebec represents 19.65% of the total GDP of Canada.

somehox I don't think so!!!

 

[proreo]

of Quebec represents 19.65% of the total GDP of Canada.

somehox I don't think so!!!

;D ;D ;D ;D
20% of GDP but 25% of Canadian population

we know so! LOL

 

[Titoualfruk]

Quebec lost its economic importance since it took stance on language policy. Only if there is a inclusive growth can the success be guaranteed...Even in non English speaking countries in Europe, English has a significant place, which no one can deny. multi geography communication requires English. With all said, I am happy with my kid going to French school as knowing French is definitely an asset...

Jeudi, 28 mars 2013
Québec maintains the objectives set in Budget 2013-2014 last November
Québec’s economy:
growth continues
Economic growth is expected to accelerate in Québec in 2013 and 2014 because of the gradual improvement
in the world economy.
•
Fol
lowing real GDP growth of 1.0% in 2012, economic growth in Québec should amount to 1.3% in 2013
and 1.8% in 2014.

Québec growth seems to be out doing many countries growth, so your staement is completely false. Growth of 1.0%, 1.3% and 1.8% are good figures especially after the economic crisis.

 

[Titoualfruk]

;D ;D ;D ;D
20% of GDP but 25% of Canadian population

we know so! LOL

23,6% to be précise as of the 2011 census, Bearing in mind a margin of error of +- 3% GDP and population this makes GDP in line with population percentage without calculating the oercentage of people who have retired.

When ALL factors are taken into account GDP and demographic are close. Need to take into account that the 23,6 % population are all of working age... I could get the exact demographic and do the analysis but really can't be bothered... Your statement rest false and ill informed

 

[mina_888]

i don`t know what should i do now
my points in old rules was 55 became 41 in new rules !!


should i withdraw my file ??
or should i let it there and continue learning french till reach B2B2 ??
i need your advice coz i am Confused and nervous
how long they will give me to reach to B2B2??
and what about AOT ???
i am chemist graduated may 2009
and not worked in my specialist from 1/2010
as my experience in other field far from my specialist !!
will i take the AOT points as the date of send my file or the date of studying it ??!
i send my file after 4 years of graduate
and the preliminary examination will be after 5 years of graduate so what will occour ??? :S:S

very thank you for your comments and advices i will make a plane depend on your opinions and will continue in french till reach B2
but let us see the exact new problem

my points in old rules was 55 became 41 in new rules !!
if they give me 18 months to reach B2B2 and i success in that

the AOT points 6 points for chemist
what about AOT at this time i will be more than 5 years graduated
i am chemist graduated may 2009
and not worked in my specialist from 1/2010
as my experience in other field far from my specialist !!
will i take the AOT points as the date of send my file or the date of studying it ??!
i send my file after 4 years of graduate
and the preliminary examination will be after 5 years of graduate so what will occour Huh

the AOT points gived according to which date Huh
- date of recevied file ??
- date of file number given ??
- or date of preliminary examination ??
this is a new big problem for me coz if they make preliminary examination of my file after a year when i send my update with B2B2
at this time i will be graduated from over 5 years and not worked
Chemist " my specialist "
i need advices to know what to do
thnx for all people here :'( :'(

 

[DebR]

what is the code u used for your aot ? have you used the pure computer engineering code ? or the computer science code ?

Hi signalmaker,

When I applied in Jan 2012, then I didn't find any option of AOT Code in the form, so I didn't mention anything about AOT code, but I passed BSc. in Computer Science and Engineering (4 years) and I am working as IT manager in a local company now and my working experience is always in computer field.

 

[DebR]

How come you say that you have 12 points according to new rules for Computer Science? Are you trying to claim points for computer engineering?

Hi proreo,

Yes, I am claiming the point for Computer Engineering, Because you may see that Computer Science is 3 years course and I completed 4 years BSc. in this subject. On the other hand my course is Computer Science and Engineering, not the Computer Science.

 

[lemans207]

Hi proreo,

Yes, I am claiming the point for Computer Engineering, Because you may see that Computer Science is 3 years course and I completed 4 years BSc. in this subject. On the other hand my course is Computer Science and Engineering, not the Computer Science.

in French system engineering they mean BE and BS
BE is 5 years and some 6 years you get diplome, diplome in French is like masters or first year after BE

 

[Ketevan]

I find exaggerated the last sentence. After 6 months of fruitless job hunting in my field, I am still working in call centre and half of my team has IT degrees from Quebec universities. And we are all fully fluent in French. I can understand that my British PhD is nothing in the eyes of Canadian employers, but I cannot understand why the same applies to their own degrees.

Besides, 1500$ a month is too much unless you want to eat in restaurant every night. I am paying 540$ for one-bed flat close to downtown montreal (all included), 77$ for transport pass, 100$ for telecom bills, and 300$ for food.

The reality is that job prospects for highly qualified professionals are very poor for immigrants no matter how fluent french is. The job offers are not even transparent in terms of criteria. I got a rejection yesterday from university where applied for teaching assistant. They said I did not satisfy the requirements of the university syndicate. What the hell? The job advert did not mention anything about syndicate. How I am supposed to satisfy something I do not know?

Immediately upon landing we (99% of immigrants) are dragged into a swamp of dead-end jobs. The two ways out of dead end jobs are: 1. Get a vocational diploma in an on-demand lower-level skill (assistant nurse, accounting clerk, secretary) and get a job immediately (the employment rate is almost 100% for vocational diploma holders). 2. Become autonomous worker (like insurance or real estate agent) or small business owner.

Titoualfruk I am taking French conversation courses, its my 3rd month now, to be ready for Quebec storms
Mostly will end by establishing small business there.

but for your info that quebec will try to get you job, will pay you monthly $$$ if your jobless, not as you landed to france, the difference ull be treated as Canadian, different case, but no doubt not easy.

I want to add info about French, if someone tries to watch French movie, will not understand most of words, because its different from what we learn in schools.
my aunt was in Montreal on 1985, she left after 1 year, she told me that she wasn't understanding their French though she is French educated.

the most what I am worry, you need about 1500$ /months as single x 12 months = 18000$ and 36000$ for 2 years jobless.
we will spend our all in the land of dreams.

but note, technical professions will never find problem hunting jobs

 

[proreo]

Hi proreo,

Yes, I am claiming the point for Computer Engineering, Because you may see that Computer Science is 3 years course and I completed 4 years BSc. in this subject. On the other hand my course is Computer Science and Engineering, not the Computer Science.

When talking about number of years you must take the overall length of education into account. Some countries have 12, some 13. IMO that's why you can have 3 or 4 year Bachelor studies.

I hope you'll get the points for C.Engineering and not only for C.Science. If there is an order of C.Engineers in QC, they will probably make you join them first.

Good luck!