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oszi

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mina_monmon said:
Dear Oszi

Wishing u r fine and all thing is okay ,

thanks for ur clasification
but i have aquestion
i applied in june but i didnot file number untill today

so now am i will be under which criteria number 2 or 3 ???

i need ur advice frds

appreciate receive your feedback

thanks in advance :) :)
I think it should be the receive date, which decides this, so I think you are under criteria 2, so 18 months. In the worst case they count by the file opening date (which would be another unfair thing here), and you have 12 months then.
 

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oszi said:
It says "Candidates who have applied for immigration from 1 August 2013 (Requirements applied to the preliminary examination with new weighting scheme)" with at B1 will get 12 months to present a B2. Other conditions are the same (39/43/47 points at least to be eligible for this).
Thank you for your reply Oszi.

"Candidates who have applied for immigration from 1 August 2013 so if the statement says FROM August 01, 2013 then that makes me eligible to apply with a B1 and only 44 pts?
 

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Thank you for your reply Oszi.

"Candidates who have applied for immigration from 1 August 2013 so if the statement says FROM August 01, 2013 then that makes me eligible to apply with a B1 and only 44 pts?
I would say yes, see below new part from GPI-3-1. I think they would like to accept applicants, who cannot reach 49/57 only because french requirements, and give them some time to fulfill that.

"C. Link Francization
Link Francization is an administrative measure of exception
provides for a special treatment to the candidate whose profile
socio-professional is interesting for Quebec, but that does not meet the
selecting specific requirements due to knowledge
lack of French.
These guidelines are based on principles of fairness and justice for all
candidates qualified workers applying for immigration and that,
regardless of the place of filing thereof or the country of origin of
nationals concerned.
Link Francization is only possible when all factors
preliminary examination were evaluated and the documents and statements
candidates have been validated.
To confirm that it has reached the required level of competence, the applicant (and
spouse, if applicable) must provide the Department with the result of a test
evaluation of their language skills in French within the time
granted.
If the results are inconclusive, and sent on time, the acceptance
preliminary examination will be recorded.
If the results reported do not show the achievement level of competence
required or if the applicant does not respond within the time allowed, the
immigration application is refused, according to established procedures. A letter
refusal is then sent to the candidate."
 

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Dear Friends

i have applied in March 2011 and my prelim. evaluation is begun
and i am at 63 points currently so what will happen in my case...

my point summary is as under

Degree : 6 Points
Aot :12 points
age : 16 points
exp : 8 points
Ielts : 5 points
kid : 4 points
French : 6 points (TCFQ A2 in both)
Finance: 1 point

Spouse
age : 3 points
French : 2 points (DELF A1)

Pls advise on urgent basis
 

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darshmodi said:
Dear Friends

i have applied in March 2011 and my prelim. evaluation is begun
and i am at 63 points currently so what will happen in my case...

my point summary is as under

Degree : 6 Points
Aot :12 points
age : 16 points
exp : 8 points
Ielts : 5 points
kid : 4 points
French : 6 points (TCFQ A2 in both)
Finance: 1 point

Spouse
age : 3 points
French : 2 points (DELF A1)

Pls advise on urgent basis
If pre. exam. begun after 1st of August, you will be notified to improve your french to B2 within 18 months (as you now have only 55 points if no change in AOT points, which is not enough for pre. exam.)

If pre. exam. begun before 1st of August, you are ok.
 
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oszi said:
I think it should be the receive date, which decides this, so I think you are under criteria 2, so 18 months. In the worst case they count by the file opening date (which would be another unfair thing here), and you have 12 months then.

Dear frd,

Many thanks for your speediest response

but according to my case i already applies with A2A2 , so if i will be under the criteria number 3 that mean i will be rejected please advice me yes or no frds ?
 

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darshmodi said:
Dear Friends

i have applied in March 2011 and my prelim. evaluation is begun
and i am at 63 points currently so what will happen in my case...

my point summary is as under

Degree : 6 Points
Aot :12 points
age : 16 points
exp : 8 points
Ielts : 5 points
kid : 4 points
French : 6 points (TCFQ A2 in both)
Finance: 1 point

Spouse
age : 3 points
French : 2 points (DELF A1)

Pls advise on urgent basis
Did you get any response from BIQ?
 

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oszi said:
I would say yes, see below new part from GPI-3-1. I think they would like to accept applicants, who cannot reach 49/57 only because french requirements, and give them some time to fulfill that.

"C. Link Francization
Link Francization is an administrative measure of exception
provides for a special treatment to the candidate whose profile
socio-professional is interesting for Quebec, but that does not meet the
selecting specific requirements due to knowledge
lack of French.
These guidelines are based on principles of fairness and justice for all
candidates qualified workers applying for immigration and that,
regardless of the place of filing thereof or the country of origin of
nationals concerned.
Link Francization is only possible when all factors
preliminary examination were evaluated and the documents and statements
candidates have been validated.
To confirm that it has reached the required level of competence, the applicant (and
spouse, if applicable) must provide the Department with the result of a test
evaluation of their language skills in French within the time
granted.
If the results are inconclusive, and sent on time, the acceptance
preliminary examination will be recorded.
If the results reported do not show the achievement level of competence
required or if the applicant does not respond within the time allowed, the
immigration application is refused, according to established procedures. A letter
refusal is then sent to the candidate."
Dear Oszi .

COncern to your usefull comment
now according to my situation i have applied before 1 of aug exactly on june with french ( delf a2a2 ) for me and for my spouse also

so now im asking what the decision or action will happen to me ?

appreciate receive your feedback

cheers :)
 

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oszi said:
I would say yes, see below new part from GPI-3-1. I think they would like to accept applicants, who cannot reach 49/57 only because french requirements, and give them some time to fulfill that.

"C. Link Francization
Link Francization is an administrative measure of exception
provides for a special treatment to the candidate whose profile
socio-professional is interesting for Quebec, but that does not meet the
selecting specific requirements due to knowledge
lack of French.
These guidelines are based on principles of fairness and justice for all
candidates qualified workers applying for immigration and that,
regardless of the place of filing thereof or the country of origin of
nationals concerned.
Link Francization is only possible when all factors
preliminary examination were evaluated and the documents and statements
candidates have been validated.
To confirm that it has reached the required level of competence, the applicant (and
spouse, if applicable) must provide the Department with the result of a test
evaluation of their language skills in French within the time
granted.
If the results are inconclusive, and sent on time, the acceptance
preliminary examination will be recorded.
If the results reported do not show the achievement level of competence
required or if the applicant does not respond within the time allowed, the
immigration application is refused, according to established procedures. A letter
refusal is then sent to the candidate."

Dear oszi,

What if my point without French language is 56 as I'm married ?

And I mentioned above when I submitted my application on June I sent with delf a2a2 for both me and my wife
Please I need to understand what the expected action will occur to me ?

Thanks :)
 

oszi

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mina_monmon said:
Dear oszi,

What if my point without French language is 56 as I'm married ?

And I mentioned above when I submitted my application on June I sent with delf a2a2 for both me and my wife
Please I need to understand what the expected action will occur to me ?

Thanks :)
That is an interesting case. For example, my application was received middle of January, but the only date I could ever get from them, was a date for the opening of my file, end of February. So almost 1,5 months was gone, before they officially opened it.

The exact quote from the new document:

"Candidats qui ont présenté une demande d'immigration avant le 1er août 2013 pour laquelle
l'examen préliminaire n'a pas débuté et qui, par conséquent, se voient appliquer la
nouvelle grille de sélection (exigences appliquées à l'examen préliminaire avec nouvelle grille
de pondération)"

Translation:

"Candidates who have submitted an application for immigration before August 1, 2013 for which
preliminary examination has not started and therefore are assigned the
new selection grid (requirements applied to the preliminary examination with new grid
weighting)"

What they EXACTLY mean by that, god knows. I hope in your case they will not take the base date of opening the file, or you could get into the post-1st-of-August category, and if you really sent it with A2/A2 only, they could just refuse. Call their Call Center tomorrow, and tell them, you need to know the status of your application, and that you do not have a reference number yet (do you?). They will find you by name, date of birth, country of birth. Ask about the date of opening the file. That is the only way to know for sure...
 
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mohde4 said:
Hi,
The latest official file (NPI) that contain latest immigration changes can be found in the followed link :

http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=7&gpiType=N&file=NPI2013-016.pdf&eoq=36870
Is it max 18 months, starting from 1 August?
 

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oszi said:
I think 18 months, starting from receiving letter of notice from MICC, which everyone in this situation will get.
I was pretty sure, there wouldn't be any official notice regarding new rules of admission and files processing. 18 months is a plenty of time.
 

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Hoback said:
I was pretty sure, there wouldn't be any official notice regarding new rules of admission and files processing. 18 months is a plenty of time.
From the document:

"In accordance with the rule changes on the selection of nationals foreign (RSFN) and Regulations respecting the weighting applicable to the selection of foreign aliens who have entered into force on 1 st August 2013, the immigration officer may now offer reference francisation the stage of preliminary examination. Therefore, there two cases of possible applications: ...."

Offers need some kind of communication for sure... ;)
 

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oszi said:
Look at this document, page 7:



Since you have 41 points without french, you will be given 18 months, to reach at least 49 points, by improving french knowledge. So you will not be refused, but given some time.
very thank you for your comment but let us see the exact new problem
i don`t know what should i do now
my points in old rules was 55 became 41 in new rules !!

if they give me 18 months to reach B2B2 and i success in that
the AOT points 6 points for chemist
what about AOT at this time i will be more than 5 years graduated Huh
i am chemist graduated may 2009
and not worked in my specialist from 1/2010

as my experience in other field far from my specialist !!
will i take the AOT points as the date of send my file or the date of studying it ??!
i send my file after 4 years of graduate
and the preliminary examination will be after 5 years of graduate so what will occour Huh :S:S
thanks for all people here
in which country is this site ??

thanks alot from Egypt :D:D
 
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