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Razaqng said:
Yeah,got my Delf B2 result AF today,passed.

No escape route for Quebec with their tricks.

Regards.
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Well done ...!!!

You have qualified under new rules as well if they don't change it next time.))

Regards
 

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whenever u ll call BIQ they have different opinion i ve given them a call several time and each n every person have told me a new thing ! so its better to wait until 1 august and wait if there is a new rule implemented on us they do correspondence with us or not
 

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Umer Shahzad said:
whenever u ll call BIQ they have different opinion i ve given them a call several time and each n every person have told me a new thing ! so its better to wait until 1 august and wait if there is a new rule implemented on us they do correspondence with us or not


Well said Umer !!!
 

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Ketevan said:
J'attendais le chauffeur se presenter a la fin comme medicin/ingenieur immigrant; apres je me suis souvenue que c'etait une blague francaise et pas canadienne.
Je ne pense pas que tous les immigrants conduisent un taxi au Canada. Ben, tout dépend de la personne surtout la préparation. Si la personne suit des démarches pour pratiquer dans la domaine avant d'atteindre au Canada, alors il n'aurait pas le problème.

Je connais des immigrants qui travaillent comme un ingénieur au Canada. De plus, ils sont originaire des pays non-francophones.

Si on ne connait pas la langue officielle du canada alors c'est vachement galère d'y intégrer.

Ben, n'entendez pas des expériences négatives. Ayez confiance en vous.
 
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Guys ,

check this and read well :

Files currently being processed, that is, those for which processing began before August 1, 2013 are reviewed according to the rules currently in effect. Applications for which processing has not yet begun and those received after August 1, 2013, will be reviewed according to the new rules.

also :

Reception of application

The Ministère checks if you can file an application for a Certificat de sélection du Québec (CSQ – Québec Selection Certificate) in accordance with the rules in effect, if all the required documents are included in your application and if it is eligible for priority processing.


An acknowledgment of receipt is sent to you to confirm reception of a complete application and, if applicable, to indicate that your application will be prioritized for processing. Your file will be returned to you if your application cannot be considered.


That means " Processing" starts immediately after AOR, that is after making sure your application is accepted according to current rules.

and as they mentioned in the first quote; " those for which processing began before August 1, 2013 are reviewed according to the rules currently in effect ", then that means :

1) if you already got AOR, then there is no need to even think about the new rules issue

2) if you still didnt get the AOR, then there would be a posibility, that they transfer you to new rules, and if so ; they will need to send you an official letter stating that, and probably by mail not email.

Hopefully this would help you guys..

good luck ..
 

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signalmaker said:
Guys ,

check this and read well :

Files currently being processed, that is, those for which processing began before August 1, 2013 are reviewed according to the rules currently in effect. Applications for which processing has not yet begun and those received after August 1, 2013, will be reviewed according to the new rules.

also :

Reception of application

The Ministère checks if you can file an application for a Certificat de sélection du Québec (CSQ – Québec Selection Certificate) in accordance with the rules in effect, if all the required documents are included in your application and if it is eligible for priority processing.


An acknowledgment of receipt is sent to you to confirm reception of a complete application and, if applicable, to indicate that your application will be prioritized for processing. Your file will be returned to you if your application cannot be considered.


That means " Processing" starts immediately after AOR, that is after making sure your application is accepted according to current rules.

and as they mentioned in the first quote; " those for which processing began before August 1, 2013 are reviewed according to the rules currently in effect ", then that means :

1) if you already got AOR, then there is no need to even think about the new rules issue

2) if you still didnt get the AOR, then there would be a posibility, that they transfer you to new rules, and if so ; they will need to send you an official letter stating that, and probably by mail not email.

Hopefully this would help you guys..

good luck ..
Hi,

I think you are not right, or at least your conclusion, that AOR means "file is under processing" is wrong, based on the rules you quoted.

"An acknowledgment of receipt is sent to you to confirm reception of a complete application" - There is not a word here about processing, or about its beginning. It just states, that they will confirm reception, or they will return the file.

So we still do not know, what "processing" means, and when it starts. What we know, is that if this "processing" has not started yet, your application will be processed under the new rules. Period. That is a law now, published in Gazette. There are 2 things which they have not cleared yet:

  • The contents of the new AOT list
  • What does "processing" exactly means, and which files fall into that category

But your assumption, that AOR means processing has started, is a brave one at minimum. There isn't anything that supports this theory. We just do not know it yet.
 

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but according to the rules effective in 2012-2013 they only grant AOR to the persons who have a valid AOT which fetch 16,12,6 pts in the list of area of training
 

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Umer Shahzad said:
but according to the rules effective in 2012-2013 they only grant AOR to the persons who have a valid AOT which fetch 16,12,6 pts in the list of area of training


Exactly !, this is what i was about to write here ..

If according to new rules ( Dec 6th 2011 ), only those who have valid papers and full documents will get AOR, then that means :

For those who fall on the new rules : yes AOR mean processing started

For those who fall on the old rules AND THERE ARE NO ONE WITH OLD RULES AND HAENT GOT AOR ..

So .. that means everyone, who has AOR, will not fall under Aug 1st 2013 rules ..
 

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Exactly !, this is what i was about to write here ..

If according to new rules ( Dec 6th 2011 ), only those who have valid papers and full documents will get AOR, then that means :

For those who fall on the new rules : yes AOR mean processing started

For those who fall on the old rules AND THERE ARE NO ONE WITH OLD RULES AND HAENT GOT AOR ..

So .. that means everyone, who has AOR, will not fall under Aug 1st 2013 rules ..
we are igniting this issue too much i think so that it will result in a blunder from us they don't have any kind of information the people sitting over there i just read a thread by Anniejismt user in the other qsw she spoke to MICC the lady over the phone said the rules will be under newrules and after then she asked about AOT said it wont be the old one LOL how intelligent is the CSR person is i can give the thread exact wording

Hi Friends,

I called up MICC for checking which rules will apply if I send my application file by 31st July. Definitely new rules, is what she said Embarrassed .So for the time being, I have just held back on my case filing. I think its better to know what we're up against after August 1st, rather than just throwing darts in the dark and wasting money n time.

And yes, I asked her out of curiousity about how is the new area of training list shaped up. She replied," Well we do not have any information on that as yet, but we know that its much longer than the previous one."

Some hope in those words there, since my area of training is C.... Grin

Well friends! Keep your fingers crossed and wait for further details to unveil. Here's hoping we all get to cut through this toughie new set of rules! Cheers! Wink
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Ok, now that I have started looking into this, I decided to end this debate about "Preliminary Processing", and I went straight to the official guide of Quebec immigration processing. The below section is from the official guide's google translated version, from here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=hu&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca%2FdynamicSearch%2Ftelecharge.php%3Ftype%3D7%26file%3DGPI-3-1.pdf&act=url

By DCS they refer to a CSQ application. If you read it, you will clearly see, that preliminary processing immediately ends with one of these 4 outcomes:

- the acceptance;
- the intention of refusal and denial;
- for rejection and rejection;
- suspense

After preliminary processing, based on decision, they immediately send the corresponding letter:

If the applicant meets the statutory requirements, the case will proceed to step selection, the letter PERM 111 (file selection), PERM 121 (Invitation to the interview) or PERM 124 (pending interview) is sent to candidate, depending on the situation that applies to it (SEE GPI 3-2 SECTIONS 4.4.1 and 4.4.2). For candidates holding a job validated , see section 5.5.1.1 of this chapter (SEE GPI 3-1 SECTION5.5.1.1)

Also, they send refusal letter, if that is the decision after preliminary processing: If the candidate does not meet the regulatory conditions, a letter PERM 401 (intention to refuse the preliminary examination) is sent, along with the evaluation sheet (FEVAL). The applicant has 60 days from the date Shipping to respond. If the applicant responds to this letter and its request should nevertheless be denied, a letter PERM 401 (refusal to review Preliminary) is transmitted, if necessary, together with the FEVAL. If the applicant does not comply with the letter of intent to deny his application is denied the expiry of 60 days without further notice.

All in all, I think this is a bad news. Since preliminary processing is almost immediately followed by an official communication from them, if you have not get one of these letter, it means that with high probability, your application is still BEFORE preliminary processing, ergo will be processed under the new rules...

The original document is below:



4.2 Stage of preliminary examination

4.2.1 Objectives of the preliminary examination

The stage of the screening function is to:

- Allow the identification of candidates to be selected on record, based on the results obtained at this stage of the process;
- Manage access to the selection interview by removing applications that not meet the qualifying thresholds or threshold crossing the stage screening.

4.2.2 Requirements to the stage of preliminary examination

Under Article 7 of RSFN, the DCS worker is qualified candidate subject to a preliminary examination in accordance with the factors set out in the grid selection of candidates for this sub-category, except for the factor Adaptability. At this stage, the score is assigned to the candidate from the information contained in the DCS. The candidate must meet the following requirements to qualify:

- get at least 2 points to the criterion level of education factor Training, ie minimally hold a diploma secondary or vocational (SEE GPI 3-1 SECTION 3.3.1.1);
- meet the cutoff score employability.

The threshold applies to this step is as follows:

- 42 points for a single applicant;
- 50 points for an applicant with his spouse or partner.

This threshold applies to factors Training, Experience, Age, Knowledge language, Stay and family in Quebec Job validated and, if necessary features of the spouse or de facto spouse accompanying.

- meet the threshold of transition to the stage of preliminary examination .

The threshold that applies to this step is the following:

- A minimum of 49 points for a single applicant;
- A minimum of 57 points for an applicant with his husbandor partner.

All factors are taken into account at the stage of preliminary examination in except Adaptability factor.

- get 1 point capacity factor of financial autonomy , that is to say duly completed, signed and attached to the application the Agreement to financial self-sufficiency.

The immigration counselor must ensure that the amount of the Contract on financial autonomy corresponds to the amount prescribed in Annex C RSFN. To do this, check the amount on the contract taking into account the number of persons in the family unit. In If the immigration officer finds upon examination Preliminary certain documents or information is missing or the amount listed on the contract does not meet the minimum required under of Annex C RSFN, it transmits the candidate's letter PERM 115 (document missing) and the list of missing exhibits.

Remarks:

- Two contracts may apply to skilled candidates make an immigration application in the regular program selection:

- the Agreement on the financial self-sufficiency - Applicantprincipal (excluding the caregiver and the person allowed to apply for permanent residence in Canada for humanitarian reasons);
- the Agreement on the financial self-sufficiency - Family Helpresident and person authorized to apply for a residence permanently in Canada on humanitarian grounds.

In the case of the first contract, the signature of both spouses is required if is a skilled worker applicant with a spouse who accompanies.

- If the candidate demonstrates language skills in French with the support of his application for immigration, the result of a test assessment issued by the two organizations recognized by the Ministry (See Section 3.3.4.1), the immigration officer may ensure the validity of using the validation means at his provided by the issuers.

4.2.3 Results at the stage of preliminary examination After preliminary examination, the possible outcomes are:

- the acceptance;
- the intention of refusal and denial;
- for rejection and rejection;
- suspense.

4.2.3.1 Acceptance

If the applicant meets the statutory requirements, the case will proceed to step selection, the letter PERM 111 (file selection), PERM 121 (Invitation to the interview) or PERM 124 (pending interview) is sent to candidate, depending on the situation that applies to it (SEE GPI 3-2 SECTIONS 4.4.1 and 4.4.2). For candidates holding a job validated , see section 5.5.1.1 of this chapter (SEE GPI 3-1 SECTION5.5.1.1).

4.2.3.2 Intention of refusal and denial

If the candidate does not meet the regulatory conditions, a letter PERM 401 (intention to refuse the preliminary examination) is sent, along with the evaluation sheet (FEVAL). The applicant has 60 days from the date Shipping to respond. If the applicant responds to this letter and its request should nevertheless be denied, a letter PERM 401 (refusal to review Preliminary) is transmitted, if necessary, together with the FEVAL. If the applicant does not comply with the letter of intent to deny his application is denied the expiry of 60 days without further notice.

The code for the formation of the principal applicant and spouse must appear FEVAL on the candidate.

Remarks:

- Is designated as the principal applicant, the person whose situation is most advantageous in terms of the allocation of points provided for the weighting in the assessment of an application by a couple. Thus, when a candidate accompanied by a spouse or partner does not qualify the preliminary examination there instead of checking if the spouse or common law could possibly meet the threshold of passage. The immigration counselor examines the chances of the spouse to qualify as the main applicant and forwards, if necessary, a letter PERM 115 (Missing documents) to complete the assessment. If the examination is successful, the advisor opens a new folder in the system computer and continued evaluation as usual. If the spouse can not qualify as a principal applicant, the counselor says FEVAL on this option was considered but the spouse does not respond not meet the requirements to be selected as the principal applicant.

- Exceptionally, a candidate who does not meet the requirements preliminary examination may be accepted at this stage if the official believes that the grid does not reflect the capacity of the latter to successfully establish or appears to be of particular distress. The procedures for the use of ministerial discretion (Article 40 of RSFN) are discussed in Chapter 5 of the component 3 (SEE GPI 3-5).

4.2.3.3 Intended rejection and rejection

When the immigration officer has reasonable grounds to doubt the authenticity of documents or accuracy of information submitted to support of the application for immigration, documents and evidence into the record Immigration information and documents.
If the evidence is sufficient, the officer prepares a letter PERM 399 (For release) in which he outlines the information or document whose veracity or authenticity has not been proven satisfactorily. The applicant has 60 days from the date of receipt of the letter of intention to reject, to forward its comments and any document to review the decision, otherwise the application will be rejected, in which case the rejection of his request is confirmed by another letter PERM 399a (letter rejection), signed by the manager, and an administrative penalty applies, preventing reapply during the five subsequent years, in accordance with Article 3.2.2.1 of the Act.
If the immigration officer believes that the evidence must be completed, it may call the candidate for an interview, if it reaches the threshold crossing required.

4.2.3.4 Suspense

It may happen that the immigration officer can not make a decision, especially occurs when one or more of the following situations:

- the fees payable have not been paid in full;
- information, explanations or additional documents are required;
- additional checks are necessary.

In the latter case, the immigration officer may, after approval its manager, request a review by the Directorate of Security, the Surveys and Registrar of Immigration Consultants (DSERCI) service responsible for the authentication of documents submitted or use the expertise others.

In cases where the immigration officer must suspend processing a request, it logs the progress in the computer system and gives the candidate the letter that applies to their situation
 

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oszi said:
Ok, now that I have started looking into this, I decided to end this debate about "Preliminary Processing", and I went straight to the official guide of Quebec immigration processing. The below section is from the official guide's google translated version, from here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=hu&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca%2FdynamicSearch%2Ftelecharge.php%3Ftype%3D7%26file%3DGPI-3-1.pdf&act=url

By DCS they refer to a CSQ application. If you read it, you will clearly see, that preliminary processing immediately ends with one of these 4 outcomes:

- the acceptance;
- the intention of refusal and denial;
- for rejection and rejection;
- suspense

After preliminary processing, based on decision, they immediately send the corresponding letter:

If the applicant meets the statutory requirements, the case will proceed to step selection, the letter PERM 111 (file selection), PERM 121 (Invitation to the interview) or PERM 124 (pending interview) is sent to candidate, depending on the situation that applies to it (SEE GPI 3-2 SECTIONS 4.4.1 and 4.4.2). For candidates holding a job validated , see section 5.5.1.1 of this chapter (SEE GPI 3-1 SECTION5.5.1.1)

Also, they send refusal letter, if that is the decision after preliminary processing: If the candidate does not meet the regulatory conditions, a letter PERM 401 (intention to refuse the preliminary examination) is sent, along with the evaluation sheet (FEVAL). The applicant has 60 days from the date Shipping to respond. If the applicant responds to this letter and its request should nevertheless be denied, a letter PERM 401 (refusal to review Preliminary) is transmitted, if necessary, together with the FEVAL. If the applicant does not comply with the letter of intent to deny his application is denied the expiry of 60 days without further notice.

All in all, I think this is a bad news. Since preliminary processing is almost immediately followed by an official communication from them, if you have not get one of these letter, it means that with high probability, your application is still BEFORE preliminary processing, ergo will be processed under the new rules...

The original document is below:



4.2 Stage of preliminary examination

4.2.1 Objectives of the preliminary examination

The stage of the screening function is to:

- Allow the identification of candidates to be selected on record, based on the results obtained at this stage of the process;
- Manage access to the selection interview by removing applications that not meet the qualifying thresholds or threshold crossing the stage screening.

4.2.2 Requirements to the stage of preliminary examination

Under Article 7 of RSFN, the DCS worker is qualified candidate subject to a preliminary examination in accordance with the factors set out in the grid selection of candidates for this sub-category, except for the factor Adaptability. At this stage, the score is assigned to the candidate from the information contained in the DCS. The candidate must meet the following requirements to qualify:

- get at least 2 points to the criterion level of education factor Training, ie minimally hold a diploma secondary or vocational (SEE GPI 3-1 SECTION 3.3.1.1);
- meet the cutoff score employability.

The threshold applies to this step is as follows:

- 42 points for a single applicant;
- 50 points for an applicant with his spouse or partner.

This threshold applies to factors Training, Experience, Age, Knowledge language, Stay and family in Quebec Job validated and, if necessary features of the spouse or de facto spouse accompanying.

- meet the threshold of transition to the stage of preliminary examination .

The threshold that applies to this step is the following:

- A minimum of 49 points for a single applicant;
- A minimum of 57 points for an applicant with his husbandor partner.

All factors are taken into account at the stage of preliminary examination in except Adaptability factor.

- get 1 point capacity factor of financial autonomy , that is to say duly completed, signed and attached to the application the Agreement to financial self-sufficiency.

The immigration counselor must ensure that the amount of the Contract on financial autonomy corresponds to the amount prescribed in Annex C RSFN. To do this, check the amount on the contract taking into account the number of persons in the family unit. In If the immigration officer finds upon examination Preliminary certain documents or information is missing or the amount listed on the contract does not meet the minimum required under of Annex C RSFN, it transmits the candidate's letter PERM 115 (document missing) and the list of missing exhibits.

Remarks:

- Two contracts may apply to skilled candidates make an immigration application in the regular program selection:

- the Agreement on the financial self-sufficiency - Applicantprincipal (excluding the caregiver and the person allowed to apply for permanent residence in Canada for humanitarian reasons);
- the Agreement on the financial self-sufficiency - Family Helpresident and person authorized to apply for a residence permanently in Canada on humanitarian grounds.

In the case of the first contract, the signature of both spouses is required if is a skilled worker applicant with a spouse who accompanies.

- If the candidate demonstrates language skills in French with the support of his application for immigration, the result of a test assessment issued by the two organizations recognized by the Ministry (See Section 3.3.4.1), the immigration officer may ensure the validity of using the validation means at his provided by the issuers.

4.2.3 Results at the stage of preliminary examination After preliminary examination, the possible outcomes are:

- the acceptance;
- the intention of refusal and denial;
- for rejection and rejection;
- suspense.

4.2.3.1 Acceptance

If the applicant meets the statutory requirements, the case will proceed to step selection, the letter PERM 111 (file selection), PERM 121 (Invitation to the interview) or PERM 124 (pending interview) is sent to candidate, depending on the situation that applies to it (SEE GPI 3-2 SECTIONS 4.4.1 and 4.4.2). For candidates holding a job validated , see section 5.5.1.1 of this chapter (SEE GPI 3-1 SECTION5.5.1.1).

4.2.3.2 Intention of refusal and denial

If the candidate does not meet the regulatory conditions, a letter PERM 401 (intention to refuse the preliminary examination) is sent, along with the evaluation sheet (FEVAL). The applicant has 60 days from the date Shipping to respond. If the applicant responds to this letter and its request should nevertheless be denied, a letter PERM 401 (refusal to review Preliminary) is transmitted, if necessary, together with the FEVAL. If the applicant does not comply with the letter of intent to deny his application is denied the expiry of 60 days without further notice.

The code for the formation of the principal applicant and spouse must appear FEVAL on the candidate.

Remarks:

- Is designated as the principal applicant, the person whose situation is most advantageous in terms of the allocation of points provided for the weighting in the assessment of an application by a couple. Thus, when a candidate accompanied by a spouse or partner does not qualify the preliminary examination there instead of checking if the spouse or common law could possibly meet the threshold of passage. The immigration counselor examines the chances of the spouse to qualify as the main applicant and forwards, if necessary, a letter PERM 115 (Missing documents) to complete the assessment. If the examination is successful, the advisor opens a new folder in the system computer and continued evaluation as usual. If the spouse can not qualify as a principal applicant, the counselor says FEVAL on this option was considered but the spouse does not respond not meet the requirements to be selected as the principal applicant.

- Exceptionally, a candidate who does not meet the requirements preliminary examination may be accepted at this stage if the official believes that the grid does not reflect the capacity of the latter to successfully establish or appears to be of particular distress. The procedures for the use of ministerial discretion (Article 40 of RSFN) are discussed in Chapter 5 of the component 3 (SEE GPI 3-5).

4.2.3.3 Intended rejection and rejection

When the immigration officer has reasonable grounds to doubt the authenticity of documents or accuracy of information submitted to support of the application for immigration, documents and evidence into the record Immigration information and documents.
If the evidence is sufficient, the officer prepares a letter PERM 399 (For release) in which he outlines the information or document whose veracity or authenticity has not been proven satisfactorily. The applicant has 60 days from the date of receipt of the letter of intention to reject, to forward its comments and any document to review the decision, otherwise the application will be rejected, in which case the rejection of his request is confirmed by another letter PERM 399a (letter rejection), signed by the manager, and an administrative penalty applies, preventing reapply during the five subsequent years, in accordance with Article 3.2.2.1 of the Act.
If the immigration officer believes that the evidence must be completed, it may call the candidate for an interview, if it reaches the threshold crossing required.

4.2.3.4 Suspense

It may happen that the immigration officer can not make a decision, especially occurs when one or more of the following situations:

- the fees payable have not been paid in full;
- information, explanations or additional documents are required;
- additional checks are necessary.

In the latter case, the immigration officer may, after approval its manager, request a review by the Directorate of Security, the Surveys and Registrar of Immigration Consultants (DSERCI) service responsible for the authentication of documents submitted or use the expertise others.

In cases where the immigration officer must suspend processing a request, it logs the progress in the computer system and gives the candidate the letter that applies to their situation

but no one knows when his primarily processing has been started
 

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but no one knows when his primarily processing has been started


Look at my Bold sentence in my previous post. Preliminary processing is immediately followed by - in most cases - an interview letter. If you do not get it in 2-3 weeks, then your preliminary processing has not started, ergo... connect the dots.
 

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if such is the case then the applicants from 2010-2013 will have there applications invalided until n unless they have B2 french score they did it deliberately.
 

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Umer Shahzad said:
if such is the case then the applicants from 2010-2013 will have there applications invalided until n unless they have B2 french score they did it deliberately.


As unfortunate and outrageous it is, I have to agree with your last comment... :( So anyone who intends to try to improve their French score, I think it is time to quickly apply for an exam, as places will be filled very soon for the next 60-90 days...
 
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