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[armoured]

Excellent remark. Sure inability to travel is a problem to see family abroad. This option is a bet on chance. If i enter and got revocation order, i prefer to go back and not do an appeal and i wonder if revocation order is a bad point for future application.

-Revocation or renunciation should not affect a separate PR application - although as noted that may still be difficult.
-It is of course a bit of a bet. Note, it's not that travel is not allowed (of course), but that every time you return while out of compliance there is a chance of being reported.
-The risk will go down somewhat if you're clearly living in Canada and the closer you are to the 730 days to be in compliance*, but risky (esp if warned at border).

*By this, I mean that you always have the right to attempt to make an H&C case, and the officers at border are aware (and they don't like spending time writing reports that will be overturned later). So, for example, someone who has 729 days and goes on a short trip abroad - that's less risky. Someone who has far less days in Canada and then leaves for six months or a year - very different.

But in the end: only way to avoid the risk entirely is to be in compliance.

 

[SuperMarco]

Very interesting. Thank you. What i understand given i remain one year in Canada, i have few chance to succeed in H&C. I just ask my self if the ressponse is negative, will i be exposed to sanctions if i re apply.

 

[armoured]

Very interesting. Thank you. What i understand given i remain one year in Canada, i have few chance to succeed in H&C. I just ask my self if the ressponse is negative, will i be exposed to sanctions if i re apply.

No, there will be no sanctions.

 

[SuperMarco]

Hello my friends, i hope you are fine these sad days. I m working on my HC following your advice. Complicated because not always easy to prove problems of illness etc. Anyway, i m half below the 730 days so needless to give proof of my rent. I put emphasize on H&C with some proof to show that things are not always easy in life. In case they reject (99% i believe), I would try to re apply to PR since your told me there are no implicit sanctions.

 

[SuperMarco]

Hi evry one, please may i ask few questions?
-you told me that i should apply to PRTD and if the they say no (99% i have to re apply to PR) and if they say yes (i go to Canada but there will i receive automatically the PR card or should i do an something?).
-I saw the checklist document they ask for passport all pages copies (not other things linked to PR card application like fotos) + checklist+the application with my arguments + fees. => i)argument: it is difficult to prove everything so i give what i can ii) which fees? Many thanks again for your psychological support.

 

[scylla]

Hi evry one, please may i ask few questions?
-you told me that i should apply to PRTD and if the they say no (99% i have to re apply to PR) and if they say yes (i go to Canada but there will i receive automatically the PR card or should i do an something?).
-I saw the checklist document they ask for passport all pages copies (not other things linked to PR card application like fotos) + checklist+the application with my arguments + fees. => i)argument: it is difficult to prove everything so i give what i can ii) which fees? Many thanks again for your psychological support.

If you get a PRTD approved you will need to submit a separate application for a PR card once you are in Canada.

I've not sure I understand your question on the arguments. You should provide as much evidence as possible.

For the fee, you need to pay the PRTD fee.

 

[SuperMarco]

If you get a PRTD approved you will need to submit a separate application for a PR card once you are in Canada.

I've not sure I understand your question on the arguments. You should provide as much evidence as possible.

For the fee, you need to pay the PRTD fee.

Thanks a lot.
-fees: it seems 50 here https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/epay/order.do?category=16
-submit a separate application for PR card once in Canada: i believe that if they say yes to PRTD, the PR card will be automatic once in canada (i know some of you said yes but i want be sure, sorry)
-you are right: i meant a way to argue because in this HC, you can sometimes give evidence but not everything.
Thanks again for expertise.

 

[scylla]

Thanks a lot.
-fees: it seems 50 here https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/epay/order.do?category=16
-submit a separate application for PR card once in Canada: i believe that if they say yes to PRTD, the PR card will be automatic once in canada (i know some of you said yes but i want be sure, sorry)
-you are right: i meant a way to argue because in this HC, you can sometimes give evidence but not everything.
Thanks again for expertise.

Again, no. As I said in my earlier post, the PR card will NOT be automatically issued once you are in Canada. You have to submit a separate application for the PR card after the PRTD is approved and after you have arrived in Canada.

Fee list is here: https://ircc.canada.ca/english/information/fees/fees.asp#permanent You pay the PRTD fee to apply for the PRTD.

 

[SuperMarco]

Again, no. As I said in my earlier post, the PR card will NOT be automatically issued once you are in Canada. You have to submit a separate application for the PR card after the PRTD is approved and after you have arrived in Canada.

Fee list is here: https://ircc.canada.ca/english/information/fees/fees.asp#permanent You pay the PRTD fee to apply for the PRTD.

Thank you very much
-indeed, prtd is 50.
-I'm sorry, i did not well expressed my thought about PR card. Please let me put it differently. In rare case of positive response, the appliquant does a separate application for the PR card as you clearly write. But my question was to know if the PR card can be refused once in Canada in this procedure.

 

[canuck78]

Thank you very much
-indeed, prtd is 50.
-I'm sorry, i did not well expressed my thought about PR card. Please let me put it differently. In rare case of positive response, the appliquant does a separate application for the PR card as you clearly write. But my question was to know if the PR card can be refused once in Canada in this procedure.

If you have an approved PRTD based on H&C (should say RC-1) then you can land and apply for a PR card.

 

[SuperMarco]

If you have an approved PRTD based on H&C (should say RC-1) then you can land and apply for a PR card.

Many thanks. I don't know what is RC-1. Anyway. I understand that if they accept PRTD (which is not likely) they will accept to mail the PR card once the application is done. Thanks again.

 

[armoured]

Many thanks. I don't know what is RC-1. Anyway. I understand that if they accept PRTD (which is not likely) they will accept to mail the PR card once the application is done. Thanks again.

RC-1 is a code they would put on the visa IF they've approved it for H&C reasons.

 

[SuperMarco]

Many thanks. I don't know what is RC-1. Anyway. I understand that if they accept PRTD (which is not likely) they will accept to mail the PR card once the application is done. Thanks again.

Hello my friends, i suppose that if nobody respond to the claim " I understand that if they accept PRTD (which is not likely) they will accept to mail the PR card once the application is done." it's that it's correct.

 

[canuck78]

Hello my friends, i suppose that if nobody respond to the claim " I understand that if they accept PRTD (which is not likely) they will accept to mail the PR card once the application is done." it's that it's correct.

If you get approved for PRTD based on H&C and have code RC-1 then you will be able to apply for a PR card upon reentry to Canada.

 

[SuperMarco]

If you get approved for PRTD based on H&C and have code RC-1 then you will be able to apply for a PR card upon reentry to Canada.

Many thanks. May be i don't get the point because i'm not english speaking and i'm sorry about that. For me "applying" means that they can say no to PR card.