April 2025 - Citizenship Applications

[MJSPARV]

Type: Online application
Location: Toronto
Physical Presence Days: ~ 1096
Application: Single (myself)
Application sent: 05-Apr-2025
Delivered: 05-Apr-2025
AOR: Pending

Note: I paid fees on march 29 for $630 and uploaded that recipt while submitting on April 5.
I came to know citizenship fees increased now to $649.
I dont know what will happen to my application now.
any idea ppl ? will it be returned or will they provide some link to pay remaining fees.

I know someone who misread the fees for a work permit application and accidentally only paid half, and she was sent a letter requesting the rest of the fee and instructions for sending the receipt, with the caveat that if she didn’t pay by a certain time they’d consider the application abandoned. Given they did that for a huge amount missing for a work permit renewal, I suspect they’d do something similar for a missing $19 on a citizenship application.

 

[veerG]

any april folks got their AOR yet ?

 

[divy1990]

any april folks got their AOR yet ?

Yes in my dreams I did. LOL

 

[JAM123]

Type: Online application
Location: Winnipeg
Physical Presence Days: ~ 1661
Application: Myself and Spouse
Application sent: 09-Apr-2025
Delivered: 09-Apr-2025
AOR: Pending

 

[JAM123]

any april folks got their AOR yet ?

From what I’ve seen in a few threads, it looks like it usually takes about 20 to 30 days to get the AOR in most cases (online application). In some cases it's like 40 days.

 

[klubsoda]

Hey man nice to see a familiar name! I believe we got our PRs around the same time. I’m wondering for time spent as a temporary resident, did you put ‘worker’ for the time after you applied for PGWP and were on implied status?

Hey there, sorry I'm seeing this so late! It is a cool experience to come back here and see folks I recognize from the PR threads now submitting for citizenship too!

As for your question: I still had a valid PGWP while my PR was processing. My physical processing breakdown was:
- International student: 57 days
- Temporary resident permit holder: 970 days
- PR: 799 days (minus some vacations)

I don't know if that helps but hope so!

 

[abff08f4813c]

As for your question: I still had a valid PGWP while my PR was processing. My physical processing breakdown was:

- Temporary resident permit holder: 970 days

You mean temporary work permit holder, since you mentioned PGWP. Very confusingly, a temporary resident permit means something very different in Canada - https://www.canadavisa.com/what-is-a-temporary-resident-permit.html

I'm not sure what other generic term to call the other types of permits (study permits and work permits) as a group.

 

[klubsoda]

You mean temporary work permit holder, since you mentioned PGWP. Very confusingly, a temporary resident permit means something very different in Canada - https://www.canadavisa.com/what-is-a-temporary-resident-permit.html

I'm not sure what other generic term to call the other types of permits (study permits and work permits) as a group.

It's listed on my application as "temporary resident permit holder." Since it's already submitted, I can't go back through the flow to check whether it converted my PGWP to that or if that was a category I self-selected... Hopefully I didn't mess up lol.

My thought is that for the application, this wording should be understood as "temporary resident" permit holders rather than "temporary resident permit" holders, if that makes sense. That grouping *is* consistent with how IRCC defines temporary residents in their glossary: as a category encompassing students and workers who aren't PR.

 

[abff08f4813c]

It's listed on my application as "temporary resident permit holder."
Hopefully I didn't mess up lol.

Whelp. That's not good. If you happen to have an immigration consultant on call, it wouldn't hurt to give them a ring.

That said, I think usually the way to fix this is to submit the documents after you receive AOR, in this case a Letter of Explanation explaining you were confused by the terminology and meant to say temporary foreign worker for such and such period or periods.

Since it's already submitted, I can't go back through the flow to check whether it converted my PGWP to that or if that was a category I self-selected...

I went through this myself recently. It won't convert to temporary resident permit holder automatically - when done correctly a PGWP shows up as Temporary foreign worker.

My thought is that for the application, this wording should be understood as "temporary resident" permit holders rather than
"temporary resident permit" holders, if that makes sense.

It does, and it's one of my gripes with IRCC for having such confusing terminology. "Resident Wavier permits" and "Resident Wavier Permit Holder" would have been a better name for these instead of "Temporary Resident Permit holders".

That grouping *is* consistent with how IRCC defines temporary residents in their glossary: as a category encompassing students and workers who aren't PR.

Three problems:

1) It includes visitors as well. But visitors don't have permits. Some do hold TRVs (temporary resident visas) which are different from permits in IRCC's eyes.
2) The glossary has an explicit definition of temporary resident permits.
3) Clearly in-between are temporary resident documents.


The glossary is helpful. It allows me to answer my own question:

I'm not sure what other generic term to call the other types of permits (study permits and work permits) as a group.

So from the glossary it seems they should be called temporary resident document holders. This makes more sense since a document could be either a permit (for foreign workers and for intentional students) or a visa (for folks with visitor visas), so the term properly encompasses everyone who is a temporary resident.

Edit: of course temporary resident document holders isn't an option on the app. I guess IRCC wants us to pick the most specific status possible (that is, reveal if it was specifically a study permit or a work permit, rather than just generically saying it was some kind of status from a permit).

 

[jacob1234]

Type: Online application
Location: Winnipeg
Physical Presence Days: 1130
Application: Myself
Application sent: 24-Apr-2025
Delivered: 24-Apr-2025
AOR: Pending

 

[urstrulyaddy]

Hello do we have any Whatsapp/Telegram group for April 2025 applicants?

 

[klubsoda]

Whelp. That's not good. If you happen to have an immigration consultant on call, it wouldn't hurt to give them a ring.

That said, I think usually the way to fix this is to submit the documents after you receive AOR, in this case a Letter of Explanation explaining you were confused by the terminology and meant to say temporary foreign worker for such and such period or periods.



I went through this myself recently. It won't convert to temporary resident permit holder automatically - when done correctly a PGWP shows up as Temporary foreign worker.

I did some further digging on the options in the application and I'm remembering I did not select temporary foreign worker because that's its own unique program and it didn't seem relevant to my situation. As a temporary resident who held a post grad work permit, it therefore seemed more accurate to me to choose temporary resident permit holder.

Sigh. Hopefully they're merciful with the LoE. In general, IRCC is not great with terminology, but this is really quite a frustrating gap.

Edit: It's also possible that I'm just stupid lmao

 

[abff08f4813c]

I did some further digging on the options in the application and I'm remembering I did not select temporary foreign worker because that's its own unique program and it didn't seem relevant to my situation.

Ugh.. I know exactly what you are talking about because I got confused by the very same thing. From https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/programs/temporary-foreign-worker.html it links to https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers.html under the name of "Temporary Foreign Worker Program" - which is a program to help employers find workers and sponsor them for LMIAs.

Obviously those of us on PGWPs and Bridging open work permits (BOWP) and Spousal Open work permits (SOPs) aren't part of that program, despite being temporary foreign workers, because we have open work permits and thus don't need LMIAs.

That program could have been better named. Temporary LMIA worker program at least, or assessed worker program.

Worse, the glossary you linked to mentions us as "foreign workers" without the temporary. But the citizenship app explicitly says temporary foreign workers. That's really confusing.

As a temporary resident who held a post grad work permit, it therefore seemed more accurate to me to choose temporary resident permit holder.

I completely get what you mean - I almost made the same mistake. TRPs really need to be renamed into something less confusing.

In my case I ran into this thread by chance, which saved me, https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-i...worker-a-tfw-temporary-foreign-worker.480903/

Sigh. Hopefully they're merciful with the LoE. In general, IRCC is not great with terminology, but this is really quite a frustrating gap.

Edit: It's also possible that I'm just stupid lmao

I figure this has got to be a very common misunderstanding, so they should be reasonable.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

Ugh.. I know exactly what you are talking about because I got confused by the very same thing. From https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/programs/temporary-foreign-worker.html it links to https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers.html under the name of "Temporary Foreign Worker Program" - which is a program to help employers find workers and sponsor them for LMIAs.

Obviously those of us on PGWPs and Bridging open work permits (BOWP) and Spousal Open work permits (SOPs) aren't part of that program, despite being temporary foreign workers, because we have open work permits and thus don't need LMIAs.

That program could have been better named. Temporary LMIA worker program at least, or assessed worker program.

Worse, the glossary you linked to mentions us as "foreign workers" without the temporary. But the citizenship app explicitly says temporary foreign workers. That's really confusing.



I completely get what you mean - I almost made the same mistake. TRPs really need to be renamed into something less confusing.

In my case I ran into this thread by chance, which saved me, https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-i...worker-a-tfw-temporary-foreign-worker.480903/




I figure this has got to be a very common misunderstanding, so they should be reasonable.

Idk which one I picked, hopefully it’s the right one

 

[klubsoda]

Ugh.. I know exactly what you are talking about because I got confused by the very same thing. From https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/programs/temporary-foreign-worker.html it links to https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers.html under the name of "Temporary Foreign Worker Program" - which is a program to help employers find workers and sponsor them for LMIAs.

Obviously those of us on PGWPs and Bridging open work permits (BOWP) and Spousal Open work permits (SOPs) aren't part of that program, despite being temporary foreign workers, because we have open work permits and thus don't need LMIAs.

That program could have been better named. Temporary LMIA worker program at least, or assessed worker program.

Worse, the glossary you linked to mentions us as "foreign workers" without the temporary. But the citizenship app explicitly says temporary foreign workers. That's really confusing.



I completely get what you mean - I almost made the same mistake. TRPs really need to be renamed into something less confusing.

In my case I ran into this thread by chance, which saved me, https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-i...worker-a-tfw-temporary-foreign-worker.480903/




I figure this has got to be a very common misunderstanding, so they should be reasonable.

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who found it ridiculous at least. I was complaining to my friend about it and they said: "I wouldn't be surprised if they never flag it and the individual processing your application either misses it, knows the ambiguity and ignores it, or knows the ambiguity and fixes it for you." So I'm going to hope that's the case At least until I do/don't get an AOR.