WES rule changes for India: DEC'2018-Word of caution

[ibtee]

how does WES know if the institution or the student mailed the document. cant the student just drop it off from a university mailbox?

They require the documents in an envelope sealed by the institution with stamp/ seal/ signature on the flaps of letter.

 

[hodari]

They require the documents in an envelope sealed by the institution with stamp/ seal/ signature on the flaps of letter.

Couldn't you request the transcripts in a sealed/stamped envelope from your university's registrar office?

 

[ibtee]

Couldn't you request the transcripts in a sealed/stamped envelope from your university's registrar office?

That's how you are supposed to it but we have to make sure they attest/ verify the documents properly. If you receive the sealed envelope, you won't be sure about the documents inside. Also, in some cases, you have to include the Academic Request form which has to be filled by you and the university, so need to make sure if that has to be included. Where I'm from, I first requested the institution to attest the documents. Once they handed them to me, I inspected them. Then there was another office where the documents were put in the envelope and sealed and the envelope given back for sending.

 

[sahilk89]

how does WES know if the institution or the student mailed the document. cant the student just drop it off from a university mailbox?[/QUTE]
WES can call up very much to university if they have sent the documents/issued the documents, they have explicity mentioned in new policy

 

[sahilk89]

No please check again
https://applications.wes.org/OnlineApp/pdf/ca/International_Transcript_Request.pdf

okay, got it,thanks

 

[9145]

Even if people send fraudulent documents, WES always had this direct mail requirement from institutions themselves. However, in recent years some universities have chosen intermediaries to simplify the burden. This also aided institutions to gain additional money for the administrative services. Fraudulent documents or not, there is no logical reason for reiterating documents should be directly send to WES from universities than making the brand name of WES popular in India and as the only option for evaluations (While there exists fair and better services than WES). WES by this is attempting to influence the Indian education system and significantly raise as a standardization entity. This is "bull****" from there part, because fraudulent or not, send by the student or the university with all the files and seals - there is no way for them to understand these documents were sent directly from the university. If they want to prevent fraudulent documents, they have to make pacts with the universities to check the certificate file numbers and such, and they also have to collect data regarding authorized institutions in India. Dates of UGC authorization, there ranking and such plus publish them for WES service users (This is informative and reduces trouble for WES). They need to understand the legal systems available for degree validation in India and processes in universities (they have to adapt, not dictate their ways-but there is no trouble in putting control elements for ensuring quality, but using it for other purposes are not so great).

The least they should be able to validate age old education systems that does not spend money on marketing as established leaders of education and acknowledge authorized newer ones with good marketing strategies. They also have to acknowledge people are working in the Americas with degrees from online universities, and part-time studies, and comparative fees structure of these institutions is not the the mandate for comparing education.

 

[fredybouy]

Update: Mumbai University says that individual only will be sending the documents. MU will not send any documents on your behalf. What now?

 

[Ashtush]

Update: Mumbai University says that individual only will be sending the documents. MU will not send any documents on your behalf. What now?

have u spoken to registrar ?? or over the mail ??

 

[fredybouy]

have u spoken to registrar ?? or over the mail ??

I had called them and wasn't satisfied with answer. So reaching uni now as we speak. Should I be speaking to the registrar?

 

[Ashtush]

I had called them and wasn't satisfied with answer. So reaching uni now as we speak. Should I be speaking to the registrar?

Yup ! Speak to registrar . uni might charge u around 3k but i'll sorted ..

Uni Ain't say NO ! Mate

 

[Ashtush]

Hey can you call me @8268589075.

The uni guy told me that they don't send it for anyone.

I'm based in london !! callin ain't problem but its weird they sayin NO !!

 

[fredybouy]

They said courier it by yourself and add MUs address in the "From" section. I bothered them so much that they announced this to 30 people who had come for attestation. I have couriered my documents. Lets see what happens.

 

[hemantab]

They said courier it by yourself and add MUs address in the "From" section. I bothered them so much that they announced this to 30 people who had come for attestation. I have couriered my documents. Lets see what happens.

For International couriers, the courier company asks to attach one ID proof (of the sender) to the parcel. Were you asked to attach your ID proof?

 

[fredybouy]

Yes, but they said that isn't visible to the recievr of the docukent. And also said that's how everybody is sending.

 

[hemantab]

Yes, but they said that isn't visible to the recievr of the docukent. And also said that's how everybody is sending.

Okay. Thanks. Please let me know if you hear anything from WES when they receive your documents. My university also declined to send the documents saying they don't have any such process...