Just a random question comes to mind: how would the IRCC evaluate physical presence when they look at CBSA records? Does timezone matter? It's easy to get a record from CBSA on all the entry and exit records, but notice that all the time records were in EST. Say some people who live in Vancouver come back at 11:30 p.m., which shows as 2:30 a.m. on the CBSA records.
Does the time zone matter?
Just a random question comes to mind: how would the IRCC evaluate physical presence when they look at CBSA records? Does timezone matter? It's easy to get a record from CBSA on all the entry and exit records, but notice that all the time records were in EST. Say some people who live in Vancouver come back at 11:30 p.m., which shows as 2:30 a.m. on the CBSA records.
Does the time zone matter?
>Anytime you in Canada for that day is counted as physical presence.
Yep. But will IRCC check that? i.e., will IRCC check where you actually cross the border and take time differences into consideration?
I myself have got a lot of records crossing the border around EST midnight, so.
>Anytime you in Canada for that day is counted as physical presence.
Yep. But will IRCC check that? i.e., will IRCC check where you actually cross the border and take time differences into consideration?
I myself have got a lot of records crossing the border around EST midnight, so.
It matters because, if OP lives in Vancouver and returns at 11pm local time, he would be credited for that day if the local timezone is considered, but not if the east timezone is considered. That could even out with some departures at 1 am but still, it's a relevant question and IRCC should clearly say it.
Also, IMHO the best way is to enter the dates as OP recorded them (after all, it's a personal log not a CBSA copy paste, and someone in BC would record their exits and entry in local time), but be conservative with the days buffer, have one that's bigger that the number of doubtful entries.
It matters because, if OP lives in Vancouver and returns at 11pm local time, he would be credited for that day if the local timezone is considered, but not if the east timezone is considered. That could even out with some departures at 1 am but still, it's a relevant question and IRCC should clearly say it.
Also, IMHO the best way is to enter the dates as OP recorded them (after all, it's a personal log not a CBSA copy paste, and someone in BC would record their exits and entry in local time), but be conservative with the days buffer, have one that's bigger that the number of doubtful entries.
I agree OP has to enter everything from there perspective(timezone) and leave the internal conversion headache for IRCC to handle. Have buffer to be safe.
For sure, but I'm quite sure IRCC knows of this situation, and that the unified time stamp they use for exit/entries is just to simplify their algorithm and processing. But had they wanted people to apply in a specific timezone, they would have said so. After all, there's nothing in the Citizenship Act that speaks about timezones (see here for section 5(1) https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-29/page-2.html#docCont), and a day in BC at 11 pm definitely fits the spirit of the law...
The buffer thing is more of an abundance of caution.
For sure, but I'm quite sure IRCC knows of this situation, and that the unified time stamp they use for exit/entries is just to simplify their algorithm and processing. But had they wanted people to apply in a specific timezone, they would have said so. After all, there's nothing in the Citizenship Act that speaks about timezones (see here for section 5(1) https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-29/page-2.html#docCont), and a day in BC at 11 pm definitely fits the spirit of the law...
The buffer thing is more of an abundance of caution.
Yep. Now that I think about this again, the IRCC must have some ways to take this into account rather than just checking a time stamp with one specific time zone. (I myself have crossed the border in Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver multiple times.)
Interestingly, on the other hand, US I-94 always shows the time and date in the local time zone. I've submitted that along with my application for safety.
Hi,
I am in a similar boat. Cross-border worker having returned home in Vancouver after 9pm many days.
Did you make a note in your application about the fact that you followed your residential timezone ? Please let me know/
I'm not in a similar boat though.
I have left enough room for them to calculate my physical presence in the most strict way.
But I guess you'll be fine.
I have enough buffer too. But while documenting in the physical presence calculator I wasn't sure which time zone to follow.
So when you reported, you followed the local residential time zone ? Thanks!
I have enough buffer too. But while documenting in the physical presence calculator I wasn't sure which time zone to follow.
So when you reported, you followed the local residential time zone ? Thanks!
