Reasons for Rejection

[Marco2015]

do you think that a UK caution received 11 years ago for possession of 1 cigarette of cannabis could mean rejected application?

in the police certificate I've written "no live trace"

 

[pziegler1986]

Why is CIC requesting documentation for IELTS/CELPIP? Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't IELTS have a similar database to WES in which CIC can pull out the certificate # and view the certificate that way?

 

[hulahoop]

do you think that a UK caution received 11 years ago for possession of 1 cigarette of cannabis could mean rejected application?

in the police certificate I've written "no live trace"

If nothing came up on the police check then you're fine.

UK cautions don't go on a criminal record.

 

[Marco2015]

If nothing came up on the police check then you're fine.

UK cautions don't go on a criminal record.

thanks for your reply. on the police certificate is written "no live trace"....

hopefully it is going to be fine.

 

[purplesnow]

Why is CIC requesting documentation for IELTS/CELPIP? Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't IELTS have a similar database to WES in which CIC can pull out the certificate # and view the certificate that way?

sure but it could be like the ECA issue, some details entered when the profile was created not transferring post ITA, and people not checking that all the info is there. so not giving them a number to search for.

 

[hulahoop]

Why is CIC requesting documentation for IELTS/CELPIP? Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't IELTS have a similar database to WES in which CIC can pull out the certificate # and view the certificate that way?

It happens to a large number of applicants and it's nothing to worry about. Just send 'em the scans.

 

[hulahoop]

thanks for your reply. on the police certificate is written "no live trace"....

hopefully it is going to be fine.

No live trace means you're good.

No live trace is what I've got and the only thing they've got on me is a packet of Refreshers I stole when I was 9.

 

[hulahoop]

No live trace means you're good.

No live trace is what I've got and the only thing they've got on me is a packet of Refreshers I stole when I was 9.

Actually I think I have no trace? Either way I believe you're fine.

 

[pziegler1986]

sure but it could be like the ECA issue, some details entered when the profile was created not transferring post ITA, and people not checking that all the info is there. so not giving them a number to search for.

If that's the case then why are some people getting rejected and others not? I guess it really depends on the officer reviewing your case.

 

[hulahoop]

Honestly I think the decider between being cancelled and not is largely down to how bloody minded and/or how much of a bad day the officer is having.

 

[Dynonobel]

Honestly I think the decider between being cancelled and not is largely down to how bloody minded and/or how much of a bad day the officer is having.

I spoke off the record to a Canadian Immigration Lawyer who has 25+ years of experience doing PR and WP applications and he told me the most important thing he learned about the process and CIC over the years is that "If they like you, you have a much better chance of success."

He explained that he seen in case after case where the applicant wrote a cover letter/letter of explanation and appealed to the agents kind side that small things were overlooked and agents would even go out of their way to allow an application to be approved (for example, holding onto it until sufficient time had passed that an issue no longer was an issue). On the flip side he told me that he had seen cases where an applicant was rude in a letter and was punished for it. He gave an example of a WP being denied because the applicant was incomplete (and he was) but instead of denying it right away the agent held onto it until it was too late to submit a second application, because the applicant had tried to trick the agent.

The moral of the story...be polite and use what you can to appeal to the good nature of the CIC agent. It won't fill a hole in your application, but it might be the difference between a request for additional document or an automatic rejection. The CIC agent, while working within the rules, still has some flexibility to make a judgement call AND after all they are human.

 

[eddie.r]

yes, mine.

What was the reason? i have background check long long time ago and nothing happens .... honestly im not calm ....

 

[hulahoop]

Very interesting! Makes a lot of sense.

 

[ETE]

yes, mine.

Hi Colorblind,

What was the reason for cancellation?

 

[katja2684]

The moral of the story...be polite and use what you can to appeal to the good nature of the CIC agent. It won't fill a hole in your application, but it might be the difference between a request for additional document or an automatic rejection. The CIC agent, while working within the rules, still has some flexibility to make a judgement call AND after all they are human.

At the end of the day the processing officers are also held accountable for their decisions and I don't see any reason why they would break the rules. It's not their best interest to give out PR's, so I won't count too much on their goodness.