Open Work Permit Help!! Very Confused:(

[AliReza92]

Am I right to assume that this is a British Degree vs. a Canadian one?

Indeed its a british degreee

 

[OddSituation]

Right. I asked because if you intend to work as an "Engineer" in Canada, you may need to be verified with relevant boards. However, I'm not very familiar with which Engineers require it and which do not. More info can be found here: Credential assessment in Canada, Civil engineers (2131) occupational profile

Now if you're aiming for the Canadian Experience Class (CEC) (which I think you are?) you'll need Canadian NOC work experience, that is:

[quote author=cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp]...Canadian skilled work experience within three years of applying. According to the Canadian National Occupational Classification (NOC), skilled work experience means:

• Managerial jobs (NOC skill level 0)
• Professional jobs (NOC skill type A)
• Technical jobs and skilled trades (NOC skill type B)

Your experience must be at least 12 months of full-time ... or an equal amount in part-time hours.
[/quote]

Where a year is defined as:

• 30 hours/week for 12 months = 1 year full time (1560 hours)
• 15 hours/week for 24 months = 1 year full time (1560 hours)
• 30 hours/week for 12 months at more than one job = 1 year full time (1560 hours)

OR
(As I learnt from arowberry): If your total work experience falls within 365 days, then you need to have worked at least 50 of the 52 weeks.
[Source: Canadian Experience Class selection criteria - Qualifying work experience]

For the Federal skilled workers class the "Canadian" aspect is dropped.

For Skilled Trades Workers "Canadian" is dropped, the NOC is B only with 2 years minimum experience (under above specifications for "year").

Note these qualify you for permanent residence which then qualifies you for OWP.

The only (simple) way I know to skip PR to get a OWP is IEC. Otherwise most ways involve specific exempt professions, employer sponsorship, family, or common-law/spouses.

Of course, please do correct me if I'm mistaken. ;D

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Would taking a course under 2 years not work? Because I was told by a lawyer to take a 1 year course... then i would get a work permit for the same duration of the course, then i should be able to appy for PR.

As scylla explained, 1 year course = 1 year PGWP = risky to get the 1 year of skilled experience necessary. Stay away from consultants.

 

[scylla]

Thanks for this and my last question is, if my uncle owns his own pizza store and is successful, is there a method whereby I can come here and become the manager of his store? and work like that or will that not work? It may be stupid as the business is food, however If maybe coming as managerial position may help?

Assume it will be very difficult for you to get a work permit. In order to apply for a work permit, your uncle will first have to advertise the job for at least a month and prove no Canadian could be hired for the role he wants to give you. He will then have to apply for something called an LMIA which gives him approval to hire you. As part of this process, he will have to pay a $1,000 fee. The processing for this LMIA application will take many months and there's no guarantee the LMIA will be approved. Only if the LMIA is approved can you try applying for a work permit. However I think even then the chances of a work permit approval will be low given your educational background. CIC will probably suspect you are just using this job as a way of getting to Canada so that you can stay long term. Having said that, you can certainly try.

 

[AliReza92]

Assume it will be very difficult for you to get a work permit. In order to apply for a work permit, your uncle will first have to advertise the job for at least a month and prove no Canadian could be hired for the role he wants to give you. He will then have to apply for something called an LMIA which gives him approval to hire you. As part of this process, he will have to pay a $1,000 fee. The processing for this LMIA application will take many months and there's no guarantee the LMIA will be approved. Only if the LMIA is approved can you try applying for a work permit. However I think even then the chances of a work permit approval will be low given your educational background. CIC will probably suspect you are just using this job as a way of getting to Canada so that you can stay long term. Having said that, you can certainly try.

No, I wont be trying this after what you have just mentioned, Thank you ever so much for this information....I will certainly try IEC but the next quota id be guessing is in 2016 im guessing.... There is certainly no easy way around this..

And Oddsituation, thing is i have about 3 months of relevant WorkExp within a civil engineering firm which isnt sufficient at all.

 

[johnny123]

It is much much wiser to take a 2 year course to get a 3 year work permit if your ultimate goal is PR.

just a quick question - i thought that duration of pgwp is based on duration of college/uni, up to 3 years max... in other words that you get for 2 years course a 2 year wp?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

just a quick question - i thought that duration of pgwp is based on duration of college/uni, up to 3 years max... in other words that you get for 2 years course a 2 year wp?

If the program is less than 2 years, a PGWP is issued for an equal duration of time. If the program is 2 years or more, a 3 year PGWP may be issued.

 

[AliReza92]

If the program is less than 2 years, a PGWP is issued for an equal duration of time. If the program is 2 years or more, a 3 year PGWP may be issued.

Im going to try and find any sort of cheap courses to take in Canada because anything else would cost me way too much for tution and ontop of the living expenses for over 2 years... Whats your opinions on this?

Would taking any course work?

 

[scylla]

Im going to try and find any sort of cheap courses to take in Canada because anything else would cost me way too much for tution and ontop of the living expenses for over 2 years... Whats your opinions on this?

Would taking any course work?

No - just any course will certainly not work. You have to take a course from a Designated Learning Institution (i.e. school that is recognized by CIC) in order to qualify for a study permit and also a post graduate work permit. The studies you take in Canada must also make sense in light of your past education and experiences in order to be approved for a study permit - otherwise you can expect a refusal since CIC will see you aren't a genuine student and are just using the study permit as a means of getting yourself to Canada and trying to find a way to remain long term.

 

[johnny123]

If the program is less than 2 years, a PGWP is issued for an equal duration of time. If the program is 2 years or more, a 3 year PGWP may be issued.

thanks