Grandmother born in Canada (now deceased) am I eligable?

[screech339]

Just for my own clarification would a naturalized citizen have the same status as someone actually born in Canada with regard to citizenship? Is that why they would not be considered 1st generation even if they were born outside Canada?

Thanks again for your help.

A naturalized Canadian will have same rights as Canadian born in that they can pass on Canadian citizenship to their children born abroad.

Canadian by descent, unfortunately, will not be able to pass on their citizenship anywhere in the world.

That is the only difference.

 

[jenslamb]

A naturalized Canadian will have same rights as Canadian born in that they can pass on Canadian citizenship to their children born abroad.

Canadian by descent, unfortunately, will not be able to pass on their citizenship anywhere in the world.

That is the only difference.

That makes sense, thanks for the clarification!

 

[alphazip]

Thank you for your quick response.

Ah yes, unfortunately I was born in 1981, and did not make any claim in time, so there's nothing for me at this point. I didn't expect there to be, but still disappointing somehow. My mum would still like to clarify her situation, so I think we will go ahead with her application.

The "naturalization" comment confused me too. I thought it a slightly odd way for her parents to phrase it to a child (perhaps that's why it stuck in her head), but I don't see how it could apply to my mum as she has never even visited Canada, let alone lived there. I can only assume they applied for a certificate of citizenship for her and then she would have eventually been naturalized once they had established residency in Canada. Typically vague family stories, unfortunately!

Just for my own clarification would a naturalized citizen have the same status as someone actually born in Canada with regard to citizenship? Is that why they would not be considered 1st generation even if they were born outside Canada?

Thanks again for your help.

The requirement to retain your citizenship was eliminated for those born in/after 1977 on April 17, 2009. So, it depends on when you were born in 1981 as to whether you had to retain. And...that only applies IF your mother was still a Canadian citizen when you were born. If you're going ahead with your mother's application, you may as well have a search done, too, since there's no extra charge. That way, you'll have more information to go on.

 

[jenslamb]

The requirement to retain your citizenship was eliminated for those born in/after 1977 on April 17, 2009. So, it depends on when you were born in 1981 as to whether you had to retain. And...that only applies IF your mother was still a Canadian citizen when you were born. If you're going ahead with your mother's application, you may as well have a search done, too, since there's no extra charge. That way, you'll have more information to go on.

I was born in Jan 1981, so I would have already been 28 by the time of the rule change. I assumed that meant I would have already had to retain any citizenship before my birthday that year? But then even if I had been born later in 1981, even though the requirement to retain was eliminated, wouldn't the rule change have meant I wasn't eligible due to being 2nd gen?

It may be for nothing now anyway, we are having trouble locating my Granddad's birth certificate, and it seems we can't get a new one without visiting the archives directly, as he was born more than 95 years ago.

Thanks.

 

[Leon]

Maybe so, though I've noticed one or two other "citizenship by descent" queries from Britain recently. I also received an e-mail from a cousin in England (upset by the Brexit decision), asking whether she might qualify for Irish citizenship, based on an Irish-born grandfather. (The answer to that is yes.)

There seems to be a bit of a rush in Britain for EU passports: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/leave-vote-prompts-rush-dual-nationality-eu-passports

There are plenty of expats living in the EU that are now worried about their future if the UK leaves the EU. Some of them have stayed long enough that they can apply for permanent residency or citizenship in the country they live in but others might have to think about if they qualify for work permits. If they are skilled and have well paying jobs, it might not be a problem but for many young people who are unskilled and just bumming around, working odd jobs and basking in the sun, that would not be an option.

Never understood the surge in British google search on "how to move to Canada" after Brexit results. Doesn't make any sense since they still cannot get the benefits of EU, even if they gotten Canadian citizenship.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/uk-eu-brexit-vote-move-to-canada-1.3651308

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/after-brexit-vote-britons-searching-move-to-canada-on-google-1.2962284

Makes more sense to apply to move to another EU country and gain citizenship there, if they want to gain EU privileges.

If they weren't already living in another EU country for some time, they might not have time for that. If they move now and the UK leaves the EU in 2 years time, they will not have lived there long enough to apply for PR or citizenship and might simply have to go back to the UK.

However, nobody knows what will really happen. UK politicians seem to know that leaving the EU might not end up well. The referendum was not binding so it's a question if they'll actually leave or not. Even if they do leave, it is possible that they'll keep the freedom of movement with the EU anyway, especially if it means access to the EU market. Switzerland has been trying to negotiate access to market without freedom of movement but the EU is saying no. The EU has no reason to give the UK good deals on leaving or else they risk that others will leave too.

As for moving to Canada, it might not be that they want EU benefits but they are worried that the UK will be doom and gloom after parting from the EU. I don't think it will be that bad but there are always people who want to leave if they don't like politics. We hear from the US on a regular basis that ppl will move to Canada if such and such happens or so and so becomes president, right?