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[aj534160]

French draw this time.

CRS - 365
ITAs - 7,000

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

French draw this time.

CRS - 365
ITAs - 7,000

Remember 2021, 2022 when everyone talked about how being inland was the best(if not the only) route to be a PR in 2023 and beyond - all these draws indicate otherwise. These draws emphasize learning french, gaining experience in in-demand jobs in home country is a much much safer bet. Also, they make the student immigration route not as popular. Hopefully this will convince a lot more folks to not come to Canada solely for "hopes" of getting a PR as a student.

 

[sabensaid92]

Remember 2021, 2022 when everyone talked about how being inland was the best(if not the only) route to be a PR in 2023 and beyond - all these draws indicate otherwise. These draws emphasize learning french, gaining experience in in-demand jobs in home country is a much much safer bet. Also, they make the student immigration route not as popular. Hopefully this will convince a lot more folks to not come to Canada solely for "hopes" of getting a PR as a student.

There has been some concerns raised first by Quebec about the decline of french. And Quebecers do fight religiously for their french language. And there was also a study from Statistics Canada confirming the overall decline of French in the country. So The feds have first introduced the new official language charter and now they try to bring new francophones into the country.

 

[GandiBaat]

Remember 2021, 2022 when everyone talked about how being inland was the best(if not the only) route to be a PR in 2023 and beyond - all these draws indicate otherwise. These draws emphasize learning french, gaining experience in in-demand jobs in home country is a much much safer bet. Also, they make the student immigration route not as popular. Hopefully this will convince a lot more folks to not come to Canada solely for "hopes" of getting a PR as a student.

Canada is trying to move on to Australian model and thats a good thing. They can also implement Australia like Global Talent Visa.

 

[seadrag0n]

Remember 2021, 2022 when everyone talked about how being inland was the best(if not the only) route to be a PR in 2023 and beyond - all these draws indicate otherwise. These draws emphasize learning french, gaining experience in in-demand jobs in home country is a much much safer bet. Also, they make the student immigration route not as popular. Hopefully this will convince a lot more folks to not come to Canada solely for "hopes" of getting a PR as a student.

Someone previously said that this is IRCC's way of adding country cap, they wont come out and directly add country wise quotas like the US. Maybe because they just need to add a cap on India and every other country will balance out

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

Someone previously said that this is IRCC's way of adding country cap, they wont come out and directly add country wise quotas like the US. Maybe because they just need to add a cap on India and every other country will balance out

Marc Miller did mention that "source countries for int'l students aren't particularly diverse". But I love the fact that this can normalize immigration again, because if they continue with these draws they can reduce the importance of Canadian education - which is good for Canada and good for the future students who will come here to only experience slumlords or work in sweatshops. It has a promise of making immigration a lot more beautiful compared to where we are right now for sure.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

There has been some concerns raised first by Quebec about the decline of french. And Quebecers do fight religiously for their french language. And there was also a study from Statistics Canada confirming the overall decline of French in the country. So The feds have first introduced the new official language charter and now they try to bring new francophones into the country.

Tbh, something like French was always a good route. But it was severely deemphasized by poor messaging that floated around in 2020-2021 that echoed "If you are student here, you'll get a PR". When I was learning french, saw so many good folks take the int'l student route instead. The later was a lot of instant gratification and the former was a lot more about staying patient.

Everything that sucks about current immigration system(for Canadians and for students) could be gone if they continue these category specific draws for occupation or french, undermining the Canadian education's value.

 

[GandiBaat]

Someone previously said that this is IRCC's way of adding country cap, they wont come out and directly add country wise quotas like the US. Maybe because they just need to add a cap on India and every other country will balance out

Never underestimate Indian desparation. Give it sometime and a hell lot more Indians will be qualifying with French test taking skills.

 

[seadrag0n]

Never underestimate Indian desparation. Give it sometime and a hell lot more Indians will be qualifying with French test taking skills.

Maybe 0.00000000001% of the people. Reaching CLB7 in French will take two years of dedicated study, not easy at all.

 

[aj534160]

Maybe 0.00000000001% of the people. Reaching CLB7 in French will take two years of dedicated study, not easy at all.

Sometimes even more than that

 

[GandiBaat]

Maybe 0.00000000001% of the people. Reaching CLB7 in French will take two years of dedicated study, not easy at all.

I know people who go absolutely crazy for JEE in India. And thats a big number already. If it takes cramming most of the time, we are good at it.

 

[seadrag0n]

I know people who go absolutely crazy for JEE in India. And thats a big number already. If it takes cramming most of the time, we are good at it.

Learning French for 2 years just to boost your CRS score with no guarantee of ITA is stupid, JEE decides future for kids, something completely different IMO.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

Sometimes even more than that

IRCC has actually lowered CLB7's definition for TEF from advanced B2 to lower B2. This makes it relatively easy for a lot of folks to score CLB7 in french.

I know way too many who reached advanced B2 in 6-9 months. We've so many examples on this forum alone from 2022 when learning french wasn't even this popular, I get pings from 2-3 people each month on how I learned french, surprisingly these folks are already at B1/lower B2 and were trying to reach advanced B2. Indians, Chinese, Filipinos make a very competitive cohort imo and they live a relatively distraction free, goal oriented life. Even a small fraction of them is enough to consume the significant francophone quota. If we set lambdas aside, IRCC has opened up accessible CRS to ~3B people who previously never took significant interest before.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

Learning French for 2 years just to boost your CRS score with no guarantee of ITA is stupid, JEE decides future for kids, something completely different IMO.

haha, I was one of the many stupid It was easier, low-risk immigration pathway tbh.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

Quite a nice way to put what's happening:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1753183995058434474