Do I meet the Residence obligations if I quit the job out of canada?

[backmtl2018]

Sorry, how much the company you were working for earned has nothing to do with you. If not you any other Joe or Jill would do the job.

With you staying abroad you did not do plenty things:
1. You did not rent in Canada, so yearly 10-25k of your money were not spent in Canada for these purposes. From that money your landlord could have paid taxes and also do some renovation on the property
2. You did not consume any services there (like, contract for your mobile phone / cable TV / Internet; public transport tickets; parking fees; visiting any movies; hockey or football matches). Here it would good 2k-4k per year (depends how much you commute if you wanted to study or anything else). Again from that money service providers could have paid their taxes or hire more people if the service was wanted.
3. You did not buy any goods (be it buying some items in grocery; new electric appliance or cloth or dining in a restaurant or buying gas for your car). Here it can be anywhere between 5k - 15k per year.
4. And of course you did not consider any bigger purchase (like a new car or something more expensive). Within those 5 years one can estimate this one for about 5k per year.

But at the same time you took money from your employer which ended up being their costs in taxes paperwork, but you returned almost none of them back to Economy.

And you are very naive to thing that they will not be that bureaucratic. Yes they will be. You can see the evidence all around you. All you need is to read some stories on this forum.
And yes it is your responsibility that you meet RO and not theirs.

But I paid more than 35k annual income tax since 2013, not to say for each year I come back once spending at least 10k every time , I don’t think only rent and car lease are consumption activities in Canada.

 

[Wonderland_1010]

But I paid more than 35k annual income tax since 2013, not to say for each year I come back once spending at least 10k every time , I don’t think only rent and car lease are consumption activities in Canada.

How much you make or spend does not concern IRCC. If you want to talk financial and taxes call CRA. They handle all revenues and taxes paid while IRCC handles immigration. They don't care how much you earn or how much you paid in taxes. All they care is whether you have spent at least 2 years physically in Canada. Not meeting the residency obligations is your personal issue not theirs.

 

[backmtl2018]

How much you make or spend does not concern IRCC. If you want to talk financial and taxes call CRA. They handle all revenues and taxes paid while IRCC handles immigration. They don't care how much you earn or how much you paid in taxes. All they care is whether you have spent at least 2 years physically in Canada. Not meeting the residency obligations is your personal issue not theirs.

I am talking about deemed resident, not physical stay, if you read the whole thread.

 

[Wonderland_1010]

I am talking about deemed resident, not physical stay, if you read the whole thread.

Deem Resident is a term used by CRA for determining whether you have to file income tax if you have resident ties in Canada. Again IRCC doesn't care about deem resident. They care if you have proof of you physically living in Canada or is working for a job that was in Canada but was transferred out of the country by the same company.

 

[backmtl2018]

Deem Resident is a term used by CRA for determining whether you have to file income tax if you have resident ties in Canada. Again IRCC doesn't care about deem resident. They care if you have proof of you physically living in Canada or is working for a job that was in Canada but was transferred out of the country by the same company.

This is exactly my situation.

 

[canuck78]

This is exactly my situation.

This issue is you became a private contractor and didn't stay with the company. Assume it was more lucrative to create your own business and consult to your previous company, it usually is, unfortunately you didn't look into the implication for your PR. Canada has a very lenient residency requirement. They even let people count time out of the country for various reasons. They do have to draw the line somewhere. Do you know how many people create their own import/export companies and return to their home country and say they are doing business with Canada so the time should count?

You paid taxes because you had certain ties in Canada whether it be family, property, etc. You didn't pay a ton of tax for 5 years.

 

[backmtl2018]

This issue is you became a private contractor and didn't stay with the company. Assume it was more lucrative to create your own business and consult to your previous company, it usually is, unfortunately you didn't look into the implication for your PR. Canada has a very lenient residency requirement. They even let people count time out of the country for various reasons. They do have to draw the line somewhere. Do you know how many people create their own import/export companies and return to their home country and say they are doing business with Canada so the time should count?

You paid taxes because you had certain ties in Canada whether it be family, property, etc. You didn't pay a ton of tax for 5 years.

I leave the position because my company change their marketing strategy and I might be required to move to another city which is far from my family, this is not about the money. And even after I left the job, I still completed my tax report to Canada each year,paid certain amount of tax based on the money I earned from another job . My point is not to count all the dates I spent out of Canada, but only those days I was working for the Canadian employer. and my last contract assignment for year 2013-2015 was ended on July 30th, 2015,after that I did came back to Canada once in Nov of 2015, and then worked for them until end of December ,2015. If as cic website stated, after the assignment, will continue working ,in Canada, for the same employer, my situation still applied to this criterion ? just so confused about this coming back rules. Just like I mentioned in previous posts, CIC rules requires to come back to Canada to work for the same employer, but I did not comeback to Canada to work for them, I worked for them in China since 2009 to 2015, still, they issued me the new PRC in 2014. Based on this experience, I hope they can still count my dates working overseas. I am here to discuss about this rule, is not only for my own case, like Scylla suggested, since I am already back in Canada, I can wait until I physically stayed 730 days in Canada to renew the PR, which is much safer way, but also for that I do think this coming back rule will really hurt some people who really work and contribute to this country, what if they had worked for a oversea Canadian embassy for 3 and half years and they changed to a work for a company back in Canada to take care of their children, then they will lose the PR status , according to this single rule, is this fair to these kind people? I believe Canada government treat people fairly than most other countries, and give people free choices,otherwise, why would I care that much about my PR status in Canada. If not for the oversea assignment in 2009, I could have already applied for citizenship in 2009 and I will not have such headache right now......

 

[scylla]

I leave the position because my company change their marketing strategy and I might be required to move to another city which is far from my family, this is not about the money. And even after I left the job, I still completed my tax report to Canada each year,paid certain amount of tax based on the money I earned from another job . My point is not to count all the dates I spent out of Canada, but only those days I was working for the Canadian employer. and my last contract assignment for year 2013-2015 was ended on July 30th, 2015,after that I did came back to Canada once in Nov of 2015, and then worked for them until end of December ,2015. If as cic website stated, after the assignment, will continue working ,in Canada, for the same employer, my situation still applied to this criterion ? just so confused about this coming back rules. Just like I mentioned in previous posts, CIC rules requires to come back to Canada to work for the same employer, but I did not comeback to Canada to work for them, I worked for them in China since 2009 to 2015, still, they issued me the new PRC in 2014. Based on this experience, I hope they can still count my dates working overseas. I am here to discuss about this rule, is not only for my own case, like Scylla suggested, since I am already back in Canada, I can wait until I physically stayed 730 days in Canada to renew the PR, which is much safer way, but also for that I do think this coming back rule will really hurt some people who really work and contribute to this country, what if they had worked for a oversea Canadian embassy for 3 and half years and they changed to a work for a company back in Canada to take care of their children, then they will lose the PR status , according to this single rule, is this fair to these kind people? I believe Canada government treat people fairly than most other countries, and give people free choices,otherwise, why would I care that much about my PR status in Canada. If not for the oversea assignment in 2009, I could have already applied for citizenship in 2009 and I will not have such headache right now......

As explained previously, no you cannot count your time from outside of Canada towards PR. You don’t meet the requirements since you left your employer. You will need to physically live in Canada for two years straight before you’ll be able to renew PR. The fact you’ve paid tax is not relevant. There are only specific exceptions to the residency requirement and this required you to remain with your employer outside of Canada and then continue working with your employer on your return to Canada.

 

[backmtl2018]

As explained previously, no you cannot count your time from outside of Canada towards PR. You don’t meet the requirements since you left your employer. You will need to physically live in Canada for two years straight before you’ll be able to renew PR. The fact you’ve paid tax is not relevant. There are only specific exceptions to the residency requirement and this required you to remain with your employer outside of Canada and then continue working with your employer on your return to Canada.

Scylla, but why they issue me the PR card last time? I did not come back to continue to work for them in Canada, is this rule just set to force a person working for employer as long as he want to maintain the PR?

 

[Wonderland_1010]

Scylla, but why they issue me the PR card last time? I did not come back to continue to work for them in Canada, is this rule just set to force a person working for employer as long as he want to maintain the PR?

Its because when you first renewed your card in 2014, you were still working for your employer. You were eligible for PR renewal then but now after 2015, you cannot count the eligible days for PR renewal as you are longer working for the same employer who sent you to work outside Canada.

 

[Buletruck]

We’re you employed by the Canadian company when you submitted the application? The applications take the date it is submitted as the date the application covers. When you receive the card is irrelevant.

 

[backmtl2018]

Its because when you first renewed your card in 2014, you were still working for your employer. You were eligible for PR renewal then but now after 2015, you cannot count the eligible days for PR renewal as you are longer working for the same employer who sent you to work outside Canada.

It is not so eligible as the CIC website states, if we all accept that is the way we judge .so I like to say, different officer has different understanding of the rule, just as you and I

 

[Buletruck]

I doubt the visa officers interpretation is anything other than correct. They have the experience, the training and the courts ruling on what and what isn’t allowed. If anything it’s your/my/other’s interpretations that are sketchy.

 

[backmtl2018]

I doubt the visa officers interpretation is anything other than correct. They have the experience, the training and the courts ruling on what and what isn’t allowed. If anything it’s your/my/other’s interpretations that are sketchy.

That I agree , may God bless everyone