Can daughter or son submit PGP application if spousal PR is available.

[screech339]

Can a daughter or son submit a PGP application for one parent, if there is a spousal PR sponsorship is available for other parent currently in Canada. I personally don't think the daughter / son cannot take this route if spousal PR is available for one spouse to use.

If, per say, that the spousal PR application was denied or refused. Can the son/daughter then apply for PGP for the one parent who was denied spousal PR?

Any thoughts? Just trying to educate myself.

 

[canuck78]

Can a daughter or son submit a PGP application for one parent, if there is a spousal PR sponsorship is available for other parent currently in Canada. I personally don't think the daughter / son cannot take this route if spousal PR is available for one spouse to use.

If, per say, that the spousal PR application was denied or refused. Can the son/daughter then apply for PGP for the one parent who was denied spousal PR?

Any thoughts? Just trying to educate myself.

This is very confusing. Are the parents divorced and is one parent marrying someone in Canada?

 

[k.h.p.]

It sounds like one of the parents and a child are in Canada, and another parent is outside of Canada.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Can a daughter or son submit a PGP application for one parent, if there is a spousal PR sponsorship is available for other parent currently in Canada. I personally don't think the daughter / son cannot take this route if spousal PR is available for one spouse to use.

If, per say, that the spousal PR application was denied or refused. Can the son/daughter then apply for PGP for the one parent who was denied spousal PR?

Any thoughts? Just trying to educate myself.

If people qualify under multiple immigration streams, whether it be PGP, spousal or any economic stream, it is entirely their decision about which stream to apply under. One stream does not supercede another. IRCC would not and cannot refuse a PGP app just because the applicant also qualified to be sponsored as a spouse.

That said, spousal is much easier compared to PGP, so if there is a choice, spousal is generally better.

 

[screech339]

If people qualify under multiple immigration streams, whether it be PGP, spousal or any economic stream, it is entirely their decision about which stream to apply under. One stream does not supercede another. IRCC would not and cannot refuse a PGP app just because the applicant also qualified to be sponsored as a spouse.

That said, spousal is much easier compared to PGP, so if there is a choice, spousal is generally better.

Reason I am asking is that a parent got denied spousal PR application and appeal was rejected. So the denied spouse is relying on the other spouse to sponsor the son/daughter for PR. Once son/daughter lands as PR, he/she can submit PGP papers for the rejected parent and be reunited as family again. It's a long shot.

I explained to the parent that the son/daughter has to work at a good paying job full time for minimum 3 years plus processing time to meet income requirement for family size of 3. They can't expect the son/daughter to attend university and work part time to meet mininum income limit for PGP.

 

[k.h.p.]

I would say it's the longest of long shots.

Why was the application and appeal denied?

 

[screech339]

I would say it's the longest of long shots.

Why was the application and appeal denied?

I don't know. They didn't tell me. Seem easier for spouse in canada to move back to country. Live together for a while and then reapply for PR again.

 

[k.h.p.]

Find out why the application and appeal were denied to see if that's even an option.

If the application and appeal were denied because the person is inadmissible, they would continue to be unless that was overcome, by time or application.

If they didn't believe the relationship was genuine, then it would take some time to make it genuine.

PGP last year was a lottery - it's not a guaranteed immigration pathway. We don't know what it will look like in 2020.

 

[screech339]

Find out why the application and appeal were denied to see if that's even an option.

If the application and appeal were denied because the person is inadmissible, they would continue to be unless that was overcome, by time or application.

If they didn't believe the relationship was genuine, then it would take some time to make it genuine.

PGP last year was a lottery - it's not a guaranteed immigration pathway. We don't know what it will look like in 2020.

The last PGP was changed to first come first serve online approach. The cap remained. I know this because I tried. Cap reached within minutes after it opened.

 

[k.h.p.]

Sorry, yes, I knew that but typed it wrong. So who knows what next year's will be. PGP is not a reliable pathway to get both parents here.

 

[screech339]

Sorry, yes, I knew that but typed it wrong. So who knows what next year's will be. PGP is not a reliable pathway to get both parents here.

Genuine relationship was the problem. They believed they got married for PR. One parent was deported from Canada more than 9 years ago. The sponsor parent went to stay in country for 3 months every year.

 

[YVR123]

This is a very long shot. The dependent would be under 22. So he/she go to school and start working and then acquire enough 3 years income to sponsor the other parent on PGP.

If the dependent was born before the sponsor becomes PR and wasn't declared back then, the dependent is also excluded (if that's the reason why the spouse was denied)

 

[screech339]

This is a very long shot. The dependent would be under 22. So he/she go to school and start working and then acquire enough 3 years income to sponsor the other parent on PGP.

If the dependent was born before the sponsor becomes PR and wasn't declared back then, the dependent is also excluded (if that's the reason why the spouse was denied)

I know. I explained that to them.

 

[k.h.p.]

Genuine relationship was the problem. They believed they got married for PR. One parent was deported from Canada more than 9 years ago. The sponsor parent went to stay in country for 3 months every year.

That's going to be especially hard to overcome just by living together for a short period of time. If you're talking 9 years and 3 months a year, that's 27 months, or just over two years. Will they live together for five years or more? Would that change the scales?

Any visa officer seeing an applicant who was denied for genuine relationship concerns and where an appeal was lost would not necessarily be willing to change an evaluation based on cohabitation for a short period of time.

 

[screech339]

That's going to be especially hard to overcome just by living together for a short period of time. If you're talking 9 years and 3 months a year, that's 27 months, or just over two years. Will they live together for five years or more? Would that change the scales?

Any visa officer seeing an applicant who was denied for genuine relationship concerns and where an appeal was lost would not necessarily be willing to change an evaluation based on cohabitation for a short period of time.

The fact that one was deported 9 years ago made one inadmissible to Canada permanently. The one has to apply for ARC to remove the inadmissible status before being qualified for PR. Honestly dont know the proper procedure for that.