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faheemabrar

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I'm thinking about the unfortunate inland people applying for QSW, who missed this chance (including me).

Many candidates apply for QSW because of low point requirements. A lot of inland people already have at least 1 year of experience. Maybe previously they fell behind because of age issue, or IELTS score. Imagine if they had a profile open at this stage.

This is heartbreaking, in many levels. It's heartbreaking to see ourselves be affected by the immigration politics of Quebec. It's heartbreaking to see people rejoicing in literally every other province. It's heartbreaking to know that sometimes, a decision can cost you years.

For those, I pray from the bottom of the heart. May those lost years not go in vain. May those people hear good news in their life. And finally, may those people now see that there is indeed chance outside of Quebec, only a little courage is required.

As for me, I'm preparing to sit for IELTS again. I am monitoring the AOR situation. I will say it's encouraging. In the past 30 days, people applying from July 2019 to December 2019 has got AOR, meaning 1 month has seen 6 months worth of AOR (at random, I'll admit). But an IELTS means that if I see that situation is not improving, I do not need to wait to open an express entry profile, should the need arise. We all need to have a backup plan.

Blessings and warm wishes for everyone.
 
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Immstu

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I'm thinking about the unfortunate inland people applying for QSW, who missed this chance (including me).

Many candidates apply for QSW because of low point requirements. A lot of inland people already have at least 1 year of experience. Maybe previously they fell behind because of age issue, or IELTS score. Imagine if they had a profile open at this stage.

This is heartbreaking, in many levels. It's heartbreaking to see ourselves be affected by the immigration politics of Quebec. It's heartbreaking to see people rejoicing in literally every other province. It's heartbreaking to know that sometimes, a decision can cost you years.

For those, I pray from the bottom of the heart. May those lost years not go in vain. May those people hear good news in their life. And finally, may those people now see that there is indeed chance outside of Quebec, only a little courage is required.

As for me, I'm preparing to sit for IELTS again. I am monitoring the AOR situation. I will say it's encouraging. In the past 30 days, people applying from July 2019 to December 2019 has got AOR, meaning 1 month has seen 6 months worth of AOR (at random, I'll admit). But an IELTS means that if I see that situation is not improving, I do not need to wait to open an express entry profile, should the need arise. We all need to have a backup plan.

Blessings and warm wishes for everyone.
Agree with what you said. If FSW follows in same mode as CEC and next few draws of CEC invite everyone in pool, I see a mass Exodus of applicants from Quebec. Good for them and good for Quebec as they can then utilize AI instead (pun intended).
 
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Immstu

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Is it worth applying now? After your CSQ is approved?
No harm to be in pool as I assume more similar draws would follow this year. If you can leave Quebec after ITA then it's worthy. People with csq have also moved out of Quebec and have withdrawn their QSW application after ITA.

On a side note - To CAQuiste and people who blame IRCC for QSW application logjam and delay, have you seen Quebec government and it's immigration minister taking this issue with their federal counterpart diligently ? Nope as this's what they want - To showcase to their voters that they are bullying and harassing prospective immigrants who chose Quebec. Also in keeping with their sadistic goals they rip the prospective migrants of their money and time and deliver continual stress and anxiety.
 

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Is it worth applying now? After your CSQ is approved?
After waiting 12 months without AOR under QSWP, I moved to Ontario and submitted application under CEC. I got the invite, AOR and medicals passed within one month of submitting docs.

So far they haven't rejected my application and I did give justification for moving to ON (to be closer to family but I guess getting a new job in ON would be a valid reason too).

It is risky and I am afraid that my app still might be rejected but I took the chance and withdrew my QSWP application.
 

Lazymon82

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No harm to be in pool as I assume more similar draws would follow this year. If you can leave Quebec after ITA then it's worthy. People with csq have also moved out of Quebec and have withdrawn their QSW application after ITA.

On a side note - To CAQuiste and people who blame IRCC for QSW application logjam and delay, have you seen Quebec government and it's immigration minister taking this issue with their federal counterpart diligently ? Nope as this's what they want - To showcase to their voters that they are bullying and harassing prospective immigrants who chose Quebec. Also in keeping with their sadistic goals they rip the prospective migrants of their money and time and deliver continual stress and anxiety.
Im sure this should mount pressure on increasing quota by quebec. I'm sure an announcement will follow this change across canada. But it will still be IRCC processing the pending and ut will still depend on thier efficiency (processing QSWP). If it is ONLY quota system that is choking IRCC then would like to see IRCC's efficiency once that limit rises.
 

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After waiting 12 months without AOR under QSWP, I moved to Ontario and submitted application under CEC. I got the invite, AOR and medicals passed within one month of submitting docs.

So far they haven't rejected my application and I did give justification for moving to ON (to be closer to family but I guess getting a new job in ON would be a valid reason too).

It is risky and I am afraid that my app still might be rejected but I took the chance and withdrew my QSWP application.
Good on you. Your application will go through smoothly as you have taken all steps required to detach from any tag of Quebec.
All the best!
 

Immstu

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Im sure this should mount pressure on increasing quota by quebec. I'm sure an announcement will follow this change across canada. But it will still be IRCC processing the pending and ut will still depend on thier efficiency (processing QSWP). If it is ONLY quota system that is choking IRCC then would like to see IRCC's efficiency once that limit rises.
My point was - Why hasn't the Quebec government taken this issue with IRCC despite applicants complaining massively, immigration lawyers doing similarly. Don't you see a method to this madness?
 
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My point was - Why hasn't the Quebec government taken this issue with IRCC despite applicants complaining massively, immigration lawyers doing similarly. Don't you see a method to this madness?
As far as i can understand the changes we are seeing in the past few weeks could be becasue Quebec requested faster processing or increased the quota for 2021. I'm guessing they will have to increase quota further if they do not want to lose skilled workers willing to move out of quebec because of IRCC's decision to just literally vonvert temp worker status to permanent.

I do not understand what 75 points mean? Is CEC point calculation similar to EE? Education does not matter? foreign experience does not matter? Age does not matter? Whats the point of having a point system at all? Liberals taking advantage of pandemic situation just to raise their vote bank.
 

Immstu

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As far as i can understand the changes we are seeing in the past few weeks could be becasue Quebec requested faster processing or increased the quota for 2021. I'm guessing they will have to increase quota further if they do not want to lose skilled workers willing to move out of quebec because of IRCC's decision to just literally vonvert temp worker status to permanent.

I do not understand what 75 points mean? Is CEC point calculation similar to EE? Education does not matter? foreign experience does not matter? Age does not matter? Whats the point of having a point system at all? Liberals taking advantage of pandemic situation just to raise their vote bank.
Skilled workers (most) in Quebec don't trust any move by government here. People have been taken for granted for no fault of theirs.

75 is either someone who's over the age limit with a secondary education or someone with an incomplete profile. IRCC has just invited everyone irrespectively now to chaff out those lacking basic requirements later. I don't foresee it as a ploy to raise their votebank but rather an intelligent move by a government who want to bring their economy back on track with a touch of empathy and compassion towards those who are contributing towards it unlike Quebec which is still stuck in tribal mindset.
 

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Skilled workers (most) in Quebec don't trust any move by government here. People have been taken for granted for no fault of theirs.

75 is either someone who's over the age limit with a secondary education or someone with an incomplete profile. IRCC has just invited everyone irrespectively now to chaff out those lacking basic requirements later. I don't foresee it as a ploy to raise their votebank but rather an intelligent move by a government who want to bring their economy back on track with a touch of empathy and compassion towards those who are contributing towards it unlike Quebec which is still stuck in tribal mindset.
I'm happy for applicants but do not understand 470 to 75 points reduction. It will not be fair for previous year applicants nor the applicants applying after pandemic. If liberal government can decide what suits thier political interest then i guess quebec govt can decide what suits quebec's public interest aswell. If you call just destroying point system as compassion i would say that is perfect liberal mindset.
 

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Well we are talking for people who are already in Canada working and contributing. To be here in a first place they should have some "skills", right? Most probably, most of these people the will be be pr in the future. So as the Canadian economy needs the immigration to keep its economy running and they cannot bring more "skillful" people because of the travel restrictions, it makes total sense this move. Also I don't see how 27000 voters across Canada will make big difference.
 
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Well we are talking for people who are already in Canada working and contributing. To be here in a first place they should have some "skills", right? Most probably, most of these people the will be be pr in the future. So as the Canadian economy needs the immigration to keep its economy running and they cannot bring more "skillful" people because of the travel restrictions, it makes total sense this move. Also I don't see how 27000 voters across Canada will make big difference.
In your own words 27000 skilled workers who are already contributing will not revive economy by switching temp status to permanent. All i'm saying is they are defeating the purpose of point system "which was hailed as the best ever" until last year and now becomes obsolete?.

Best sensible liberal move would be sendimg PR confirmations for all who have work permits. Why wait for another 5-6 months of processing?
 
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