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Hi! all,
   My question is with regards to medical surveillance. I have been put on medical surveillance by the Canadian immigration and am told to report health office upon Landing. My questions are as follows:
1) Because I'm studying in UK, I will only be visiting the country for 3 weeks maximum in December 2017. Bearing that in mind, would 3 weeks be enough to get an appointment for medical surveillance and to carry out all the required tests?
2) If 3 weeks aren't enough, could I leave Canada and do it when I come back in my third year permanently? Would it affect in future in any way that I have done it later in the 5 year period than in the beginning (during my first visit)?
    Your help in the matter will greatly be appreciated. 
Thanks,
Nakul
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
			
	
		
	
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Hi! all,
   My question is with regards to medical surveillance. I have been put on medical surveillance by the Canadian immigration and am told to report health office upon Landing. My questions are as follows:
1) Because I'm studying in UK, I will only be visiting the country for 3 weeks maximum in December 2017. Bearing that in mind, would 3 weeks be enough to get an appointment for medical surveillance and to carry out all the required tests?
2) If 3 weeks aren't enough, could I leave Canada and do it when I come back in my third year permanently? Would it affect in future in any way that I have done it later in the 5 year period than in the beginning (during my first visit)?
    Your help in the matter will greatly be appreciated.
Thanks,
Nakul
		
		
	 
1. 3 weeks isn't enough, but you still have to call when you land to report, and tell them you are only in Canada for 3 weeks. When you are about to leave, call them again and tell them you are leaving. You can also inform them that your approximate return date to stay permanently is in 3 years.
Once you're back in Canada, call them again, and they will mail you a letter with the surveillance instructions. 
Don't know which province you intend to stay in, but be sure you've applied for your provincial health so costs can be covered. If you will be in Ontario, which has a 3-month residency requirement, you might not be able to do it the first time, but only when you return.
2. Yes, you can.
You just might be flagged at CBSA when you try to reenter Canada, but you can explain your situation--your medical surveillance can only be done once you have permanently settled in Canada, and the tests cannot be done outside of Canada.
The health office will depend on the region you are staying. You will have to look it up yourself.
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			1. 3 weeks isn't enough, but you still have to call when you land to report, and tell them you are only in Canada for 3 weeks. When you are about to leave, call them again and tell them you are leaving. You can also inform them that your approximate return date to stay permanently is in 3 years.
Once you're back in Canada, call them again, and they will mail you a letter with the surveillance instructions.
Don't know which province you intend to stay in, but be sure you've applied for your provincial health so costs can be covered. If you will be in Ontario, which has a 3-month residency requirement, you might not be able to do it the first time, but only when you return.
2. Yes, you can.
You just might be flagged at CBSA when you try to reenter Canada, but you can explain your situation--your medical surveillance can only be done once you have permanently settled in Canada, and the tests cannot be done outside of Canada.
The health office will depend on the region you are staying. You will have to look it up yourself.
		
		
	 
Hi! Bellaluna,  
    Thank you for clearing the air on the issue. I intend to go to Nigara falls for the 3 weeks visit. So, even if I don't carry out my medical surveillance this year and when I come back for good in my third year, I can do that and still it will pose no problem later when I apply for citizenship or extension of my PR? 
     Additionally, upon my return in the third year, the immigration officer, given that I mention the same reason as stated above, will allow me to pass me through without any problem? And this will not hamper my extension or citizenship application in future?
      Also, have you come across such incidents before where certain someone had faced with the same situation and is currently a Canadian citizen? 
   I thank you once again for your response. 
Regards,
Nakul
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Hi! Bellaluna,
    Thank you for clearing the air on the issue. I intend to go to Nigara falls for the 3 weeks visit. So, even if I don't carry out my medical surveillance this year and when I come back for good in my third year, I can do that and still it will pose no problem later when I apply for citizenship or extension of my PR?
     Additionally, upon my return in the third year, the immigration officer, given that I mention the same reason as stated above, will allow me to pass me through without any problem? And this will not hamper my extension or citizenship application in future?
		
		
	 
I know someone who's gone through that twice or thrice so far this year and they've been admitted no worries...just a really quick interview. They became PR with the medical surveillance condition last year. So you have to hope you get a CBSA officer who understands it as well. I think if you explain your situation honestly--you do intend to undergo the surveillance anyway, but can't do so until you're permanently settled in Canada--you will be fine. 
	
	
		
		
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			I know someone who's gone through that twice or thrice so far this year and they've been admitted no worries...just a really quick interview. They became PR with the medical surveillance condition last year. So you have to hope you get a CBSA officer who understands it as well. I think if you explain your situation honestly--you do intend to undergo the surveillance anyway, but can't do so until you're permanently settled in Canada--you will be fine.
No, sorry, not there yet.
		
		
	 
Hey, thank you so much for your prompt response. You know any way I can contact cic from UK to clarify the issue more thoroughly?
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Hey, thank you so much for your prompt response. You know any way I can contact cic from UK to clarify the issue more thoroughly?
		
		
	 
No, sorry. Besides, they probably cannot give you a straight answer, because this is handled by the regional health authority.
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
Given that you have probably been identified with a possible communicable disease I'm not sure if CBSA will love you potentially spreading disease around Niagara Falls for 3 weeks.  Not sure of your exact situation so can only hypothesize.  You may want to try and communicate with a medical surveillance clinic about whether you can land and go on vacation then return in 2-3 years.  Given that these disease could get worse with time I would explore potential treatment with the NHS.
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Given that you have probably been identified with a possible communicable disease I'm not sure if CBSA will love you potentially spreading disease around Niagara Falls for 3 weeks.  Not sure of your exact situation so can only hypothesize.  You may want to try and communicate with a medical surveillance clinic about whether you can land and go on vacation then return in 2-3 years.  Given that these disease could get worse with time I would explore potential treatment with the NHS.
		
		
	 
I don't have TB, so I won't be spreading it. Know the difference please. Plus they havn't given me any medical surveillance forms with COPR. IM SURE THE OFFICER WILL GIVE ME ONE upon landing. Also, I have seen people in the same situation and having their citizenship granted. I can't  do much here, just hope for the best. 
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			I don't have TB, so I won't be spreading it. Know the difference please. Plus they havn't given me any medical surveillance forms with COPR. IM SURE THE OFFICER WILL GIVE ME ONE upon landing. Also, I have seen people in the same situation and having their citizenship granted. I can't  do much here, just hope for the best.
Thanks,
Nakul
		
		
	 
Hi Nakul,
What happened in your case finally? Actually i am in a similar boat and am thoroughly confused.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
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Hi 
@Sapru, did you end up doing soft landing? If yes, how did the medical surveillance process go? Can you please share your experience?
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Hi! all,
   My question is with regards to medical surveillance. I have been put on medical surveillance by the Canadian immigration and am told to report health office upon Landing. My questions are as follows:
1) Because I'm studying in UK, I will only be visiting the country for 3 weeks maximum in December 2017. Bearing that in mind, would 3 weeks be enough to get an appointment for medical surveillance and to carry out all the required tests?
2) If 3 weeks aren't enough, could I leave Canada and do it when I come back in my third year permanently? Would it affect in future in any way that I have done it later in the 5 year period than in the beginning (during my first visit)?
    Your help in the matter will greatly be appreciated.
Thanks,
Nakul
		
		
	 
Dear Nakul,
Have you done your soft landing successfully?  Will they allow you to compete the medical surveillance after you move to canada permanently. I am also in the same boat. Please help.
Thanks in advance.
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Dear Nakul,
Have you done your soft landing successfully?  Will they allow you to compete the medical surveillance after you move to canada permanently. I am also in the same boat. Please help.
Thanks in advance.
		
		
	 
Hi and yes, I have done the soft landing successfully and had the test done within those 3 weeks. Can I ask you how long you’re there for your first visit? If it’s the same time then whichever province you going, ring the city health service and book an appointment in advance. This will help you in doing the checks soon as you land and go back without any worry.  Hope this helps
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Hi
Hi Nakul,
What happened in your case finally? Actually i am in a similar boat and am thoroughly confused.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Saurabh
		
		
	 
Hi Saurabh, 
     I managed to do all the required tests by CIC successfully. Read below for more info. 
Regards, 
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			Hi and yes, I have done the soft landing successfully and had the test done within those 3 weeks. Can I ask you how long you’re there for your first visit? If it’s the same time then whichever province you going, ring the city health service and book an appointment in advance. This will help you in doing the checks soon as you land and go back without any worry.  Hope this helps
		
		
	 
Thanks alot Nakul for your reply. I am planning to stay for 7days in Vancouver. So probably  the time will be not enough to complete the medical surveillance. Can I postpone it for my second visit? 
Or can I able to finish it within 7 days? And is it possible to get an appointment before I land in canada? Please advice.
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Hi! all,
   My question is with regards to medical surveillance. I have been put on medical surveillance by the Canadian immigration and am told to report health office upon Landing. My questions are as follows:
1) Because I'm studying in UK, I will only be visiting the country for 3 weeks maximum in December 2017. Bearing that in mind, would 3 weeks be enough to get an appointment for medical surveillance and to carry out all the required tests?
2) If 3 weeks aren't enough, could I leave Canada and do it when I come back in my third year permanently? Would it affect in future in any way that I have done it later in the 5 year period than in the beginning (during my first visit)?
    Your help in the matter will greatly be appreciated.
Thanks,
Nakul
		
		
	 
Hi Nakul,
Can you please reply and give your input.
For my father’s case we got email saying medical surveillance notice and what I am understanding after searching internet is people they get medical surveillance notice only after approval as a condition for permanent residency, but in our case we haven’t received any approval or decision email from cic, we haven’t even received any forms for surveillance or anything.  Have you seen case like this, what do you think what that email means? Is it a positive or bad thing to get this email at this point in process?
My parents in Canada on supervisa, had permanent residency application in process with no decision yet.
Please reply 
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