Pr expired

[Bilkish]

Plz advice, Pr card expired 10 years ago, will enter thru usa border by land in May. If they let me in without hassles, what about health card, to apply for health card we need valid pr card..as primary identification. Plz advice

 

[Naturgrl]

Plz advice, Pr card expired 10 years ago, will enter thru usa border by land in May. If they let me in without hassles, what about health card, to apply for health card we need valid pr card..as primary identification. Plz advice

Once you meet RO, apply for PR card then you can apply for health card. Get private insurance in the meantime. Assume you have SIN too.

 

[canuck78]

Plz advice, Pr card expired 10 years ago, will enter thru usa border by land in May. If they let me in without hassles, what about health card, to apply for health card we need valid pr card..as primary identification. Plz advice

Be prepared to pay for routine healthcare for around 2.5-3 years and take out emergency medical insurance to have some coverage in case anything serious happens.

 

[canuck78]

What happened to your PR card that you were supposed to pick up in 2018? If you didn’t pick it up that could have lead to a review of you residency compliance.

 

[monicahi]

Have you successfully arrived Canada?

 

[YVR123]

Have you successfully arrived Canada?

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/not-meeting-residency-obligation-travelling-to-canada.530124/page-7#post-10372431

looks like OP has entered. Not sure what happened after. He was asking question about healthcare (looks like he can't get provincial health coverage)
And also asking about a daughter that is pregnant and does not meet RO whose trying to enter as well.

 

[canuck78]

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/not-meeting-residency-obligation-travelling-to-canada.530124/page-7#post-10372431

looks like OP has entered. Not sure what happened after. He was asking question about healthcare (looks like he can't get provincial health coverage)
And also asking about a daughter that is pregnant and does not meet RO whose trying to enter as well.

think the entry was many years ago and person is still abroad.

 

[YVR123]

think the entry was many years ago and person is still abroad.

oh! So OP actually left after all these? I assumed one would stay after being allowed in.

I had come to Canada via usa, I was questioned by officers, finally they allowed me to enter and I got my Pr card. I had a letter from cic to pick up my PR card...

 

[canuck78]

oh! So OP actually left after all these? I assumed one would stay after being allowed in.

You would think but believe they got their card and left. That puts them more at risk of being flagged again. The more I see the less I have confidence in both IRCC and CRA. Would add province health authorities as well. There seems to be zero monitoring, no coordination between agencies, a very forgiving system, almost no deportations (not sure how someone can apply for H&C multiple times in a row until someone finally approves the file without being removed), a large number of protected people visiting their home countries, lots of people receiving child benefit and/or welfare while abroad (even while living in the US where CRA should have US taxes attached to any Canadian filing), access to medical care even in instances where people are clearly not meeting residency requirements (coming to Canada for under 6 months to have a child and leaving and using a health card), many living in Canada and using Canadian services while working for their US employer remotely and primarily paying US taxes (used to be a border town issue but now essentially a pathway for H1Bs to live anywhere in Canada for 3 years to qualify for Canadian citizenship while continuing to work for their US employers and returning to the US after the 3 years), etc. Sure that by next year people will be able to get citizenship after 3 years and not even have to come back to Canada for the citizenship oath.

The fact that supervisa stays are now 5 years plus a 2 year extension is also going to be a huge disaster. Don’t think any of the parents consider an up to 7 year stay a visit and will have nowhere to return to if they don’t receive PR during that period of time through PGP. With the increased numbers of immigrants there will be a very large volume of seniors in Canada on supervisas. Whether a senior is on a supervisa,a TRV, without status or has PR/citizenship they still access healthcare so will place additional pressure on the healthcare system when the baby boomers who have lived and worked in Canada all or a good proportion of their lives are already pushing the system past it’s limits. Seniors will stay with or without status will place increased pressure on the health system which will have even less GPs than we currently have since most GPs are over 45. Go into hospitals in Brampton and Surrey and you can see how planned infrastructure based on 2-4 residents per household and lack of investment has already created a disaster for the local health systems without adding seniors on supervisas, TRVs, without status and who have received PR/citizenship through PGP which just adds to the system always being over capacity, always above average wait times, etc. Birth tourism mostly in Richmond, North York, Richmond Hill and NICUs in Toronto and Vancouver also creating incredible strain and loss of funds on OB/GYN and forcing even more women with high risk pregnancies to be sent to the US for NICU beds. There seems to be a total lack of planning. Thank goodness someone opened up one GP only med school but we need a few more, more nursing school spots, more medical tech programs, more medical lab programs and spots, etc. Don’t get me started on Ford who is essentially going against all the study outcomes that prove that privatizing surgeries will cost more and not improve wait times. Why would we learn from the data of other provinces. Quebec is actually reversing use of private facilities after it proved to cost more and not help wait times. Never was delusional enough to think government was great but thought that there was at least some logic or follow through. Ok rant over…. Not always a National Post fan but this article but this article just highlights so many issues in multiple systems and Canada’s lack of concern when it comes to people taking advantage of Canada’s generosity.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/some-refugees-exploiting-canada-immigration-system

 

[wizardofwest90210]

Plz advice, Pr card expired 10 years ago, will enter thru usa border by land in May. If they let me in without hassles, what about health card, to apply for health card we need valid pr card..as primary identification. Plz advice

10 years expiration date. Hope u were able to get in, do share your experience.

 

[Copingwithlife]

You would think but believe they got their card and left. That puts them more at risk of being flagged again. The more I see the less I have confidence in both IRCC and CRA. Would add province health authorities as well. There seems to be zero monitoring, no coordination between agencies, a very forgiving system, almost no deportations (not sure how someone can apply for H&C multiple times in a row until someone finally approves the file without being removed), a large number of protected people visiting their home countries, lots of people receiving child benefit and/or welfare while abroad (even while living in the US where CRA should have US taxes attached to any Canadian filing), access to medical care even in instances where people are clearly not meeting residency requirements (coming to Canada for under 6 months to have a child and leaving and using a health card), many living in Canada and using Canadian services while working for their US employer remotely and primarily paying US taxes (used to be a border town issue but now essentially a pathway for H1Bs to live anywhere in Canada for 3 years to qualify for Canadian citizenship while continuing to work for their US employers and returning to the US after the 3 years), etc. Sure that by next year people will be able to get citizenship after 3 years and not even have to come back to Canada for the citizenship oath.

The fact that supervisa stays are now 5 years plus a 2 year extension is also going to be a huge disaster. Don’t think any of the parents consider an up to 7 year stay a visit and will have nowhere to return to if they don’t receive PR during that period of time through PGP. With the increased numbers of immigrants there will be a very large volume of seniors in Canada on supervisas. Whether a senior is on a supervisa,a TRV, without status or has PR/citizenship they still access healthcare so will place additional pressure on the healthcare system when the baby boomers who have lived and worked in Canada all or a good proportion of their lives are already pushing the system past it’s limits. Seniors will stay with or without status will place increased pressure on the health system which will have even less GPs than we currently have since most GPs are over 45. Go into hospitals in Brampton and Surrey and you can see how planned infrastructure based on 2-4 residents per household and lack of investment has already created a disaster for the local health systems without adding seniors on supervisas, TRVs, without status and who have received PR/citizenship through PGP which just adds to the system always being over capacity, always above average wait times, etc. Birth tourism mostly in Richmond, North York, Richmond Hill and NICUs in Toronto and Vancouver also creating incredible strain and loss of funds on OB/GYN and forcing even more women with high risk pregnancies to be sent to the US for NICU beds. There seems to be a total lack of planning. Thank goodness someone opened up one GP only med school but we need a few more, more nursing school spots, more medical tech programs, more medical lab programs and spots, etc. Don’t get me started on Ford who is essentially going against all the study outcomes that prove that privatizing surgeries will cost more and not improve wait times. Why would we learn from the data of other provinces. Quebec is actually reversing use of private facilities after it proved to cost more and not help wait times. Never was delusional enough to think government was great but thought that there was at least some logic or follow through. Ok rant over…. Not always a National Post fan but this article but this article just highlights so many issues in multiple systems and Canada’s lack of concern when it comes to people taking advantage of Canada’s generosity.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/some-refugees-exploiting-canada-immigration-system

Totally agree . It’s an unmitigated disaster.
The governments have made the system SO lenient, it’s a joke . A laughable joke .
Let’s add to the mess individuals thinking it’s their god given right to bring over seniors thru the PGP program, when said seniors haven’t paid anything in taxes to support the system .
And tbh I could care less what the culture is about taking care of your parents in various countries when one gets older . It’s irrelevant.
You’re old enough to make the decision to move to another country, you deal with it . It’s called adulting
It’s done for ONE reason, votes

 

[canuck78]

Totally agree . It’s an unmitigated disaster.
The governments have made the system SO lenient, it’s a joke . A laughable joke .
Let’s add to the mess individuals thinking it’s their god given right to bring over seniors thru the PGP program, when said seniors haven’t paid anything in taxes to support the system .
And tbh I could care less what the culture is about taking care of your parents in various countries when one gets older . It’s irrelevant.
You’re old enough to make the decision to move to another country, you deal with it . It’s called adulting
It’s done for ONE reason, votes

The government should be upfront with people that parent sponsorship with the current levels of immigration will not be possible for all people immigrating to Canada. People need to be told upfront that parent and grandparent sponsorship may not be possible and especially in 3 years. The fact that a supervisa is not a pathway to a permanent stay in Canada and people are expected to return home also needs to be clarified. With the HC system scheduled to become even more strained it would make sense to make sure we can meet the current needs of the population before adding more seniors. If I had worked in Canada for my whole life or immigrated to Canada and worked for 20-30+ years I would think I should have access to HC before adding more seniors. The wait lists for GPs in many locations is many years sometimes over a decade, wait time for LTC is usually years and many homes are closing we are losing capacity not increasing capacity and there of course wait lists for surgeries and specialists. Surgery wait times have a lot to do with nursing shortages. Areas that already lacked HC infrastructure due to lack of investment and urban planning anticipating that homes would accommodate 2-4 people are likely feeling even more strain. For example Brampton civic has been a mess for decades not years and is always above capacity. Lots of other issues with homecare, lack or GPs, etc. Assume the region has many participants in the supervisa program and PGP program placing more pressure on the system. Nobody in government or healthcare management is willing to speak openly about not being able to absorb more seniors because it is a top voting issue in many important ridings that can easily vote in another party depending on what is promised when it comes to sponsorship programs. I wish the whole country was more informed about immigration programs so we could have an open discussion about what is feasible. Getting citizenship after 3 years in Canada and having already left also dKwan’s benefit Canada. We are now a desired location to immigrate and could be on par with other countries and at least require 5 years to get citizenship.