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Hello,
I am currently outside of Canada. My PR card expires in early October 2021. Am I allowed to apply for the permanent resident travel document now (before my PR expires) if I aim to return to Canada only in November 2021? Or should I wait till my PR card expires in October and only then apply for PRTD?
Has anyone had similar situation?
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
			
	
		
	
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
You're not eligible for a PRTD if your card is valid and you have not lost it. 
Provided you meet your residency obligation or have H&C grounds to be eligible for a PRTD, you should only apply once you no longer have a valid PR card.
	
		
			
		
		
	
				
			 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Hello,
I am currently outside of Canada. My PR card expires in early October 2021. Am I allowed to apply for the permanent resident travel document now (before my PR expires) if I aim to return to Canada only in November 2021? Or should I wait till my PR card expires in October and only then apply for PRTD?
Has anyone had similar situation?
		
		
	 
Do you meet the 730 out of 5 years in November?  Looks like you no longer live in Canada and are just returning to do the citizenship oath.  A system that goggles my mind.
If you lived in Canada most would just return earlier unless dealing with something like a medical emergency.  So if you try to apply before you PR card expires you’ll neeed to explain why you can’t travel earlier.
 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Do you meet the 730 out of 5 years in November?  Looks like you no longer live in Canada and are just returning to do the citizenship oath.  A system that goggles my mind.
If you lived in Canada most would just return earlier unless dealing with something like a medical emergency.  So if you try to apply before you PR card expires you’ll neeed to explain why you can’t travel earlier.
		
		
	 
You are correct about me taking a citizenship oath in November. And no, I do actually live in Canada most of the time and thus don’t have any problems with meeting the 730 days out of the last 5 years requirement. I didn’t apply for PR card renewal because I thought IRCC would schedule my oath well before my PR expiry date, as I passed my citizenship test early in May.
There is no medical emergency, but I have certain things to do outside of Canada in the next couple of months. The only reason why I want to apply earlier is because of the uncertainty with visa processing times due to COVID-19.
 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
									
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
			
		
		
	
					
					
						
	
	
	
	
	
	
			
				
			
		
		
			
				
					
				
				
					
						
							
								
									
          
	
								
								
									
										
											
	
	
	
										
										
											
	
	
	
		
		
			
				
			
			
			
				
					
	
		
			
		
		
	
	
		
	
	
		
		
			You are correct about me taking a citizenship oath in November. And no, I do actually live in Canada most of the time and thus don’t have any problems with meeting the 730 days out of the last 5 years requirement. I didn’t apply for PR card renewal because I thought IRCC would schedule my oath well before my PR expiry date, as I passed my citizenship test early in May.
There is no medical emergency, but I have certain things to do outside of Canada in the next couple of months. The only reason why I want to apply earlier is because of the uncertainty with visa processing times due to COVID-19.
		
		
	 
You’ll need to travel to Canada before your PR card expires or apply for a PRTD when your PR card expires.
 
			
			 
			
				
			
		
		
		
	 
										
										
											
    
	
										
										
											
	
										
									
								 
								
								
									
    
	
								
							 
						
					 
				
			 
		
	
	
	
					
					
				
	
		
			
		
		
	
			
		 
	 
	
		
	
	
	
 
	
		
			
		
		
	
										
	
									 
									
									
	
		
			
		
		
	
         
            
         
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