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JP1981

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Dec 2, 2008
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Hi Guys,
I got a question about RO. how is this calculation done.
My PR card expires end of September, but I don't think I will have stayed in Canada for the required 730, if I count back from the date of my PR card expiry date, I will be short by about 10 days.
I am looking for some advise as to what I should do. should I wait 10 days after my PR card expiry date so I can meet the full PR RO. If I do that will it affect my PR renewal application in any way.
All advise will be very much appreciated.

Thanks.
 
JP1981 said:
Hi Guys,
I got a question about RO. how is this calculation done.
My PR card expires end of September, but I don't think I will have stayed in Canada for the required 730, if I count back from the date of my PR card expiry date, I will be short by about 10 days.
I am looking for some advise as to what I should do. should I wait 10 days after my PR card expiry date so I can meet the full PR RO. If I do that will it affect my PR renewal application in any way.
All advise will be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Hi,

Though one is in compliance with residency obligation once he/she has completed 730 days (2 years) in Canada in last 1825 days (5 years), but it is always recommended to add few extra months.
So, I would suggest that you should spend at least 800 days in Canada in order to avoid your application being referred to secondary review (where it can take 1+ year to get PR card renewed) though referring to secondary review completely depends on CIC and it can happen in any case.

There is no requirement to have PR card renewed within certain time frame. It purely depends on the PR. Applying late (even after 2-3 years) does not make any affect on your application, provided you provide all the required documents proving that you were in Canada during the last few years and fulfill the residency obligation.

So, in nutshell apply when you have spent at least 800 days in last 1825 days from the date of your application.
 
Thanks for the response Asini.
I am planning to go on a holiday end of the year or in Jan 2017 which kind of means I need to have a PR card to return back.
This is the reason I want to get my card renewed.
 
JP1981 said:
Hi Guys,
I got a question about RO. how is this calculation done.
My PR card expires end of September, but I don't think I will have stayed in Canada for the required 730, if I count back from the date of my PR card expiry date, I will be short by about 10 days.
I am looking for some advise as to what I should do. should I wait 10 days after my PR card expiry date so I can meet the full PR RO. If I do that will it affect my PR renewal application in any way.
All advise will be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

I cannot offer any personal advice. I can offer some observations and suggestions.

Important observations:

The date your PR card expires is NOT relevant.

Best to not apply for a new card unless and until you are actually in compliance with the PR Residency Obligation; this means do not apply for the new card unless you have been present in Canada at least 730 days within the five years preceding the day you sign the application (again, has nothing to do with the expiration date on the PR card).



Time line observations:

Processing time for a new card is likely to be at least two months (current routine time line is three months), could easily be longer (at times it has been four to around six months). But for someone cutting it close (you are obviously cutting it close), the processing time line can easily be quite a bit more than six months, up to a year, and perhaps even longer. You could apply for urgent processing, once you have purchased tickets for a trip abroad, but cutting it as close as it appears you have probably means no urgent processing, no routine processing, but rather a significantly longer period of time before you will get a new card.

Which is to say, regardless of when you apply, it is unlikely you will have a new card to use for travel in December or even the first few months of 2017. Your options are probably limited to canceling the travel plans, or being prepared to apply for and obtain a PR Travel Document while abroad.


Some risks:

Cutting it close is cutting it close, with what should be obvious implications. For example, the PR who cuts it close risks IRCC questioning some of the days the PR claims to have been in Canada. The PR should be prepared to actually prove all times in Canada, and the closer the PR cut it to the minimum, the better prepared the PR should be. Just because you say it is so does not make it so. It will be up to you to prove it.

This applies not just to an application for a new PR card, but also to an application for a PR Travel Document, if you go ahead with plans to travel by early 2017 and (as is likely) you are unable to obtain a new PR card before the trip. Moreover, once abroad and not in possession of a valid PR card, it will be presumed you do not have valid PR status.


Be aware:

The extent to which it appears you have settled permanently in Canada can influence the extent of negative skepticism, which cutting it close might invite.

The purpose of PR status is to facilitate permanent residence in Canada, which is to say the purpose is not merely to grant an individual the rights and privileges of PR status, but to grant this status to persons who will actually permanently reside in Canada.

The PR Residency Obligation is deliberately liberal, intended to accommodate unusual demands on PRs. It is not intended to encourage part-time living in Canada.

Thus, if it appears you have finally fully settled in Canada, making Canada your permanent home, that can help considerably. An impression of the opposite sort can hurt considerably.
 
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