Hello everyone!
I have a PR issued in 2017 and then I and my family moved to Europe. I went back to Canada only ones in 2018, then Covid broke. My PR expires in end of June and I am going to Canada to visit my family.
Will I be let in the country no problem? Might i have problems on the boarder as I didn't stay in the country? Can they revoke the PR earlier?
Thank you a lot!
Hello everyone!
I have a PR issued in 2017 and then I and my family moved to Europe. I went back to Canada only ones in 2018, then Covid broke. My PR expires in end of June and I am going to Canada to visit my family.
Will I be let in the country no problem? Might i have problems on the boarder as I didn't stay in the country? Can they revoke the PR earlier?
Thank you a lot!
You will be let in but could face second review from CBSA. You can simply agree with them to give up your PR or appeal.
Revoke earlier is possible, check it online, there is a portal for this purpose, very simple.
In your case, you can simply enter as PR and revoke it at the PoE. You still will be let in as a visitor, no problem.
You will be let in but could face second review from CBSA. You can simply agree with them to give up your PR or appeal.
Revoke earlier is possible, check it online, there is a portal for this purpose, very simple.
In your case, you can simply enter as PR and revoke it at the PoE. You still will be let in as a visitor, no problem.
Thank you so much!!! I will look at the portal !
Hello everyone!
I have a PR issued in 2017 and then I and my family moved to Europe. I went back to Canada only ones in 2018, then Covid broke. My PR expires in end of June and I am going to Canada to visit my family.
Will I be let in the country no problem? Might i have problems on the boarder as I didn't stay in the country? Can they revoke the PR earlier?
Thank you a lot!
Will you visit before your PR card expires? If you plan to visit after, you may not be able to get on the plane.
Will you visit before your PR card expires? If you plan to visit after, you may not be able to get on the plane.
Hello, i am entering two months before it expires. Just worried I might have problems. And then i was hoping i can re-apply, or at leas apply for a visa as i have family in Canada....
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Hello, i am entering two months before it expires. Just worried I might have problems. And then i was hoping i can re-apply, or at leas apply for a visa as i have family in Canada....
While your PR card is valid, you can board a plane to Canada and you will be admitted. At the border they may act on the non-compliance with the residency obligation, or they may not. Worst that happens is you lose the PR status.
If/when you lose PR status, you can apply for visa or ETA like anyone else.
Most likely they will question you about the residency oblgitation, and they may start the process of revoking status, or hand you a form and suggest you renounce it yourself, or possibly just a warning. On subsequent visits you'd then have more issues.
Main thing is once the PR card is expired, you will not be able to board a plane, and since no way to renew the card (while out of compliance), you won't be able to travel. That's when you'd likely have to renounce (so as to be able to apply for visa or ETA).
While your PR card is valid, you can board a plane to Canada and you will be admitted. At the border they may act on the non-compliance with the residency obligation, or they may not. Worst that happens is you lose the PR status.
If/when you lose PR status, you can apply for visa or ETA like anyone else.
Most likely they will question you about the residency oblgitation, and they may start the process of revoking status, or hand you a form and suggest you renounce it yourself, or possibly just a warning. On subsequent visits you'd then have more issues.
Main thing is once the PR card is expired, you will not be able to board a plane, and since no way to renew the card (while out of compliance), you won't be able to travel. That's when you'd likely have to renounce (so as to be able to apply for visa or ETA).
I see, thank you so much for clarifying. This is unfortunate I am loosing it. Put so much efforts to get it. Oh well, visas then!
While your PR card is valid, you can board a plane to Canada and you will be admitted. At the border they may act on the non-compliance with the residency obligation, or they may not. Worst that happens is you lose the PR status.
If/when you lose PR status, you can apply for visa or ETA like anyone else.
Most likely they will question you about the residency oblgitation, and they may start the process of revoking status, or hand you a form and suggest you renounce it yourself, or possibly just a warning. On subsequent visits you'd then have more issues.
Main thing is once the PR card is expired, you will not be able to board a plane, and since no way to renew the card (while out of compliance), you won't be able to travel. That's when you'd likely have to renounce (so as to be able to apply for visa or ETA).
I see, thank you so much for clarifying. This is unfortunate I am loosing it. Put so much efforts to get it. Oh well, visas then!
What is the portal where one can check if the PR has been revoked and how does one go about doing this? Also is there a time frame that if you try entering with less than 3 months for expiration of the card the immigration officers will be stricter? Is it possible to try entering with a return ticket to be on the safer side (to do a job search and stay on if one gets the job). Also can someone advise if processing the entry through the self service kiosk is possible
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What is the portal where one can check if the PR has been revoked and how does one go about doing this? Also is there a time frame that if you try entering with less than 3 months for expiration of the card the immigration officers will be stricter? Is it possible to try entering with a return ticket to be on the safer side (to do a job search and stay on if one gets the job). Also can someone advise if processing the entry through the self service kiosk is possible
[NOTE: I didn't realize I was replying to a different person, ignore where these threads have been mixed / streams crossed, may not make a lot of sense out of context]
I'm not sure I understand. You would know if your PR status has been revoked, it is not automatic. Your card may expire, your status does not.
Now let's separate what's going on: if you want to keep your status, it is a lot/somewhat more complicated (depending on your circumstances). In simple terms, if you return before the card expires AND remain in Canada aftewards (count on two years), then you may have a pretty good chance of doing so - but it would be a pretty big commitment.
I don't know what you mean about the return ticket, doubt that matters much (but might be a small additional thing in some cases).
Hello everyone!
I have a PR issued in 2017 and then I and my family moved to Europe. I went back to Canada only ones in 2018, then Covid broke. My PR expires in end of June and I am going to Canada to visit my family.
Will I be let in the country no problem? Might i have problems on the boarder as I didn't stay in the country? Can they revoke the PR earlier?
Thank you a lot!
If your PR Card is valid come straight Inside there are machines at Toronto Airport you will enter with no problem. If you PR Card is expired apply for a PRTD.
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[NOTE: I didn't realize I was replying to a different person, ignore where these threads have been mixed / streams crossed, may not make a lot of sense out of context]
I'm not sure I understand. You would know if your PR status has been revoked, it is not automatic. Your card may expire, your status does not.
Now let's separate what's going on: if you want to keep your status, it is a lot/somewhat more complicated (depending on your circumstances). In simple terms, if you return before the card expires AND remain in Canada aftewards (count on two years), then you may have a pretty good chance of doing so - but it would be a pretty big commitment.
I don't know what you mean about the return ticket, doubt that matters much (but might be a small additional thing in some cases).
For me the priority is to: short term - enter and leave while the PR card is valid (and it is) but then - long-term - ideally I would like to keep the status because I would still like to continue visiting the family as a resident. I of course understand if there are rules and it will be revoked, i won't ask for exceptions, but if any chance to keep or reapply, that would be so great!
I of course understand if there are rules and it will be revoked, i won't ask for exceptions, but if any chance to keep or reapply, that would be so great!
The rule to maintain PR status is quite simply and deemed to be generous in the eyes of many:
You must be a resident of, and physically residing in, Canada for a minimum of 730 days within each rolling 5 year period. That's it.
If you are living abroad and are accompanying a Canadian spouse or partner, those days may count towards the 730 day requirement.
You do
not have to reside in Canad for 730 continuous days, just 730
total days.
For me the priority is to: short term - enter and leave while the PR card is valid (and it is) but then - long-term - ideally I would like to keep the status because I would still like to continue visiting the family as a resident. I of course understand if there are rules and it will be revoked, i won't ask for exceptions, but if any chance to keep or reapply, that would be so great!
I don't have much to add. You should be fine for this visit. After that, after your card expires - it will get more complicated.
Was the other post also from you?
For me the priority is to: short term - enter and leave while the PR card is valid (and it is) but then - long-term - ideally I would like to keep the status because I would still like to continue visiting the family as a resident. I of course understand if there are rules and it will be revoked, i won't ask for exceptions, but if any chance to keep or reapply, that would be so great!
If your PR Card is valid come straight Inside there are machines at Toronto Airport you will enter with no problem.
While your PR card is valid, you can board a plane to Canada and you will be admitted. At the border they may act on the non-compliance with the residency obligation, or they may not. Worst that happens is you lose the PR status.
The latter, the observation by
@armoured, sums it up.
If the last time you were in Canada was in 2018, however, odds are there will be a Secondary immigration examination upon arrival and inadmissibility proceedings initiated, leading to a Removal Order unless you make a sufficient H&C case for keeping your PR status. No one here can reliably quantify the odds much if at all more precisely than that.
Even if a Removal Order is issued upon your arrival, you still have PR status until the right of appeal expires or is extinguished. Which means you will be allowed to proceed into Canada (again, even if issued a Removal Order), and you can then stay for up to sixty days (right to appeal expires in 30 days, and then as a Foreign National subject to a Removal Order you have 30 more days in which to leave Canada). Or longer if you appeal.
So yes . . .
You should be fine for this visit. After that, after your card expires - it will get more complicated.
Meanwhile, it is not clear what
@furrukhrao means by being allowed to "
enter with no problem." As described above, yes you will be allowed to enter Canada. If, however, "
no problem" is suggesting there is no risk of inadmissibility proceedings resulting in a Removal Order, not true.
Saving PR Status:
Overall this is a more complex subject. Given the extent to which you have failed to comply with the RO, to date, there is little chance of saving your PR status if you are not coming to Canada to stay.
Even if you come to stay, the prospects are probably not good, but this leads back to forecasting odds, which again beyond saying they are "
not good" no one here can reliably quantify the odds any more precisely.
There is one exception, a contingent exception. If per chance upon your arrival you are waived into Canada without inadmissibility proceedings being initiated, and then you stayed for the next two years, that would cure the RO breach and save your PR status. For this to work you would need to stay, not leave for two years, not apply for a new PR card for two years.
If you are not coming to Canada to stay, the odds are you will not be able to save your PR status. But that said there is a broad range of possibilities, practical possibilities, otherwise, none of which have good odds, most of which would indeed be tangled in complications and contingencies and much uncertainty.
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