Lawyer said we no longer together and she instructed our office to withdraw her sponsorship application and the sponsorship undertaking.

[sunoon]

On December 24, 2024, our lawyer forwarded us an email indicating that our Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) was in its final stage. The IRCC portal continues to show that the COPR has been received and is under review. Our PR application was approved by IRCC, and I completed my virtual landing while in Canada on December 27, 2024. And come back to India.

I have arranged air tickets for two of my sons and my daughter(as they are major) to travel to Canada. However, since I had not received my e-COPR yet, I could not travel with them under the assumption that the PR card would be sent by mail after confirmation. Upon their arrival in Canada, CBSA officers questioned why the children were attempting to land before me, their father, since my COPR was still pending. My wife went to the airport to receive them but was not allowed to speak with the CBSA officers. Eventually, the officers seized the children’s passports, took down their Canadian address and contact details, and informed them that they could collect their passports and COPRs once my e-COPR was issued.

My wife brought the children to her home in Belleville and explained the situation to me. Since my TRV was still valid, I returned to Canada and we consulted our lawyer to request IRCC expedite the issuance of my e-COPR. IRCC responded that they were experiencing a high volume of applications and asked us to be patient.

I packed our belongings and went to the airport with my three children. I explained the situation to the CBSA officers. They had me sign a voluntary departure form and noted that my landing was already confirmed, but that my e-COPR had not yet been received. They informed me that the children's current visas would no longer be valid for re-entry to Canada and that new immigration visas would be needed from IRCC.

Meanwhile, we tried to buy SIM cards and arrange school/college admissions for the children, but all agencies required original passports, which CBSA still held. With no progress, the situation at home became stressful, leading to an argument with me over a trivial matter. She asked me and the children to leave her home, stating that she no longer wanted to live with us.

And now our immigration lawyer says Our office received instructions from your wife that you are no longer together and she instructed our office to withdraw her sponsorship application and the sponsorship undertaking. She already informed IRCC and the CBSA. Due to conflict of interest,

 

[Amiah_world]

Wow that’s a lot of drama, damn I'm sorry your wife pulled the cord on you guys at the final stages of the application.

 

[James Russo]

On December 24, 2024, our lawyer forwarded us an email indicating that our Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) was in its final stage. The IRCC portal continues to show that the COPR has been received and is under review. Our PR application was approved by IRCC, and I completed my virtual landing while in Canada on December 27, 2024. And come back to India.

I have arranged air tickets for two of my sons and my daughter(as they are major) to travel to Canada. However, since I had not received my e-COPR yet, I could not travel with them under the assumption that the PR card would be sent by mail after confirmation. Upon their arrival in Canada, CBSA officers questioned why the children were attempting to land before me, their father, since my COPR was still pending. My wife went to the airport to receive them but was not allowed to speak with the CBSA officers. Eventually, the officers seized the children’s passports, took down their Canadian address and contact details, and informed them that they could collect their passports and COPRs once my e-COPR was issued.

My wife brought the children to her home in Belleville and explained the situation to me. Since my TRV was still valid, I returned to Canada and we consulted our lawyer to request IRCC expedite the issuance of my e-COPR. IRCC responded that they were experiencing a high volume of applications and asked us to be patient.

I packed our belongings and went to the airport with my three children. I explained the situation to the CBSA officers. They had me sign a voluntary departure form and noted that my landing was already confirmed, but that my e-COPR had not yet been received. They informed me that the children's current visas would no longer be valid for re-entry to Canada and that new immigration visas would be needed from IRCC.

Meanwhile, we tried to buy SIM cards and arrange school/college admissions for the children, but all agencies required original passports, which CBSA still held. With no progress, the situation at home became stressful, leading to an argument with me over a trivial matter. She asked me and the children to leave her home, stating that she no longer wanted to live with us.

And now our immigration lawyer says Our office received instructions from your wife that you are no longer together and she instructed our office to withdraw her sponsorship application and the sponsorship undertaking. She already informed IRCC and the CBSA. Due to conflict of interest,

I'm sorry to hear that, but your sponsor has the right to withdraw the sponsorship application in Canada after landing but before receiving the Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR).

 

[Naturgrl]

Spouse can do that is she is the Principal Applicant. Are the children her biological children?

 

[James Russo]

Spouse can do that is she is the Principal Applicant. Are the children her biological children?

The case is a bit confused, but it seems that the children are dependent, although one of then is major. Since the application has been canceled, I believe that the children and spouse will be deported.

 

[Naturgrl]

The case is a bit confused, but it seems that the children are dependent, although one of then is major. Since the application has been canceled, I believe that the children and spouse will be deported.

But it seems like spouse (not PA) but children's were cancelled.

OP, get a lawyer.

 

[scylla]

On December 24, 2024, our lawyer forwarded us an email indicating that our Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) was in its final stage. The IRCC portal continues to show that the COPR has been received and is under review. Our PR application was approved by IRCC, and I completed my virtual landing while in Canada on December 27, 2024. And come back to India.

I have arranged air tickets for two of my sons and my daughter(as they are major) to travel to Canada. However, since I had not received my e-COPR yet, I could not travel with them under the assumption that the PR card would be sent by mail after confirmation. Upon their arrival in Canada, CBSA officers questioned why the children were attempting to land before me, their father, since my COPR was still pending. My wife went to the airport to receive them but was not allowed to speak with the CBSA officers. Eventually, the officers seized the children’s passports, took down their Canadian address and contact details, and informed them that they could collect their passports and COPRs once my e-COPR was issued.

My wife brought the children to her home in Belleville and explained the situation to me. Since my TRV was still valid, I returned to Canada and we consulted our lawyer to request IRCC expedite the issuance of my e-COPR. IRCC responded that they were experiencing a high volume of applications and asked us to be patient.

I packed our belongings and went to the airport with my three children. I explained the situation to the CBSA officers. They had me sign a voluntary departure form and noted that my landing was already confirmed, but that my e-COPR had not yet been received. They informed me that the children's current visas would no longer be valid for re-entry to Canada and that new immigration visas would be needed from IRCC.

Meanwhile, we tried to buy SIM cards and arrange school/college admissions for the children, but all agencies required original passports, which CBSA still held. With no progress, the situation at home became stressful, leading to an argument with me over a trivial matter. She asked me and the children to leave her home, stating that she no longer wanted to live with us.

And now our immigration lawyer says Our office received instructions from your wife that you are no longer together and she instructed our office to withdraw her sponsorship application and the sponsorship undertaking. She already informed IRCC and the CBSA. Due to conflict of interest,

Agreed that you need a lawyer and a very good immigration lawyer. This is beyond the scope of this forum.

It's possible there may be nothing you can do if your wife has withdrawn her sponsorship. But again, talk to a lawyer.

 

[Copingwithlife]

There’s gotta be more to this story , then just a “ trivial “ disagreement

And the wife has every right to stop the sponsorship

 

[armoured]

I don't have much to add but the terminology in the explanation of what happened of the terms COPR, e-COPR, and landing is hopelessly confused.

-'Landing' in informal usage is the process by which / the point at which one becomes - adminstratively, officially - a permanent resident. It can be by physically arriving and having COPR processed, or it can be via 'virtual landing'. Again, it's not an official term anymore, but still used to describe the process.
-COPR is a document given before 'landing' (physically arriving at a port of entry), which is then processed and signed by applicant and CBSA officer. Only when it's signed via this process has one become a PR.
-e-COPR: issued electronically by IRCC and sent to the applicant during the 'virtual' landing process. The applicant should be in Canada when this happens.

-After becoming a PR (via either process above), the signed COPR/e-COPR serves as evidence the applicant has become a PR.

Important caveat/note: many applicants see the COPR 'number' in the tracking pages and think this means there is a COPR (of either 'type'); this is not true. The COPR number listed is akin to a registry number or file number being allocated, i.e. the COPR when issued will bear that number. It is an administrative step entirely internal to IRCC and has no meaning to anyone outside IRCC at all, and it is not evidence of anything at all.

I gather from the post that the applicant was expected to receive an e-COPR (within Canada), and - perhaps under the impression that the COPR number meant that they were already a PR - travelled to home country to get children who were issued (actual, physical) COPRs and travelled with them to Canada.

And if that is what appened, it was - clearly - a mistake. And in the context, a grave one.

I don't see what a lawyer can do other than checking/clarifying whether the principal applicant actually did become a PR (e.g. was issued the e-COPR) before the application was withdrawn by the sponsor. If they did not, then, sadly, not much can be done (in my opinion). Still worth consulting a lawyer, but this is mostly a factual determination (and of course ask of the lawyer whether there is anything else that can be done, but all courses I'm aware of are longshots at best.)

 

[sunoon]

Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for your detailed and thoughtful explanation. You have understood my query very precisely, and I truly appreciate your excellent expertise in clarifying the distinctions between COPR, e-COPR, and the landing process.

To further update you on my situation: IRCC confirmed my final approval on December 27th; however, I have not yet received the e-COPR. As of now, the status still reflects "under review" for the mailing of the PR card.

For your reference, I also received the following email from IRCC:

"Government of Canada / Gouvernement du Canada
(la version française suit la version anglaise…)
This is an automated message. Do not reply to this email.

This email confirms that you have successfully submitted the required information to confirm your status as a permanent resident in Canada.
An IRCC case worker will send you a message if further information is required; the message will come from an email address ending in @cic.gc.ca. To avoid missing our emails, check your junk or spam folder.
If the information is complete, your status as a permanent resident will be confirmed and your permanent resident card will be printed and mailed to you.
To view the status of your case, log into your IRCC Permanent Residence Portal account with your current log-in credentials.
Copy and paste this link into your browser to sign in to the PR Portal: https://prson-srpel.apps.cic.gc.ca/en/login
Thank you,
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada

Government of Canada / Gouvernement du Canada"

I sincerely appreciate your guidance and the clarity you have brought to this complex matter.


Kind regards,

 

[scylla]

Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for your detailed and thoughtful explanation. You have understood my query very precisely, and I truly appreciate your excellent expertise in clarifying the distinctions between COPR, e-COPR, and the landing process.

To further update you on my situation: IRCC confirmed my final approval on December 27th; however, I have not yet received the e-COPR. As of now, the status still reflects "under review" for the mailing of the PR card.

For your reference, I also received the following email from IRCC:




I sincerely appreciate your guidance and the clarity you have brought to this complex matter.


Kind regards,

So then you had not landed and become a PR yet. Your sponsor can withdraw sponsorship up until the time you become a PR. Once sponsorship is withdrawn, this cancels your application.

 

[armoured]

Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for your detailed and thoughtful explanation. You have understood my query very precisely, and I truly appreciate your excellent expertise in clarifying the distinctions between COPR, e-COPR, and the landing process.

To further update you on my situation: IRCC confirmed my final approval on December 27th; however, I have not yet received the e-COPR. As of now, the status still reflects "under review" for the mailing of the PR card.

For your reference, I also received the following email from IRCC:

My understanding is as stated by @scylla: that email indicates that you were _approved to become_ a PR, what is often called final decision, not that you did become one. You were in the process but did not complete it (it seems).

One does not become a PR until one receives the e-COPR, and you appear not to have received it (and I think either comes in an email with phrasing like "you are now a PR", or the email provides a link to download it but also says clearly 'now a PR' or something like that - i.e. it is quite clear and explicit). Therefore you were not and are not a PR (based on info you provided here).

I do not know about the notice about 'under review' for mailing of the PR card (in the tracker?), but I think that's a red herring. In reality, it does not indicate that PR status was received - the PR card will only be reviewed and actually mailed once PR status is confirmed (by the system).

 

[canuck78]

On December 24, 2024, our lawyer forwarded us an email indicating that our Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) was in its final stage. The IRCC portal continues to show that the COPR has been received and is under review. Our PR application was approved by IRCC, and I completed my virtual landing while in Canada on December 27, 2024. And come back to India.

I have arranged air tickets for two of my sons and my daughter(as they are major) to travel to Canada. However, since I had not received my e-COPR yet, I could not travel with them under the assumption that the PR card would be sent by mail after confirmation. Upon their arrival in Canada, CBSA officers questioned why the children were attempting to land before me, their father, since my COPR was still pending. My wife went to the airport to receive them but was not allowed to speak with the CBSA officers. Eventually, the officers seized the children’s passports, took down their Canadian address and contact details, and informed them that they could collect their passports and COPRs once my e-COPR was issued.

My wife brought the children to her home in Belleville and explained the situation to me. Since my TRV was still valid, I returned to Canada and we consulted our lawyer to request IRCC expedite the issuance of my e-COPR. IRCC responded that they were experiencing a high volume of applications and asked us to be patient.

I packed our belongings and went to the airport with my three children. I explained the situation to the CBSA officers. They had me sign a voluntary departure form and noted that my landing was already confirmed, but that my e-COPR had not yet been received. They informed me that the children's current visas would no longer be valid for re-entry to Canada and that new immigration visas would be needed from IRCC.

Meanwhile, we tried to buy SIM cards and arrange school/college admissions for the children, but all agencies required original passports, which CBSA still held. With no progress, the situation at home became stressful, leading to an argument with me over a trivial matter. She asked me and the children to leave her home, stating that she no longer wanted to live with us.

And now our immigration lawyer says Our office received instructions from your wife that you are no longer together and she instructed our office to withdraw her sponsorship application and the sponsorship undertaking. She already informed IRCC and the CBSA. Due to conflict of interest,

This is confusing. Did the children return home given you returned to the airport and signed a voluntary departure order? The next paragraph talks about trying to register for school and SIM cards. If they did not return home I assume they were likely given limited visit periods to Canada. You need to speak to the lawyer about the danger of potentially overstaying their visit to Canada because that can have serious longterm consequences for them. They should be planning on returning home at this point if they have not.

 

[sunoon]

This is confusing. Did the children return home given you returned to the airport and signed a voluntary departure order? The next paragraph talks about trying to register for school and SIM cards. If they did not return home I assume they were likely given limited visit periods to Canada. You need to speak to the lawyer about the danger of potentially overstaying their visit to Canada because that can have serious longterm consequences for them. They should be planning on returning home at this point if they have not.

We all came back to India and Still waiting for IRCC E-COPR confirmation

 

[canuck78]

We all came back to India and Still waiting for IRCC E-COPR confirmation

Who is we? Thought your spouse withdrew the sponsorship so there will be no COPR. You would also should be receiving a COPR outside of Canada not an eCOPR. You technically need to notify IRCC that you are no longer in Canada but if the sponsorship has been withdrawn it doesn’t matter.