Job Title vs NOC

[Adrian]

Having looked at the New Canadian Immigration Instructions I would appreciate some advice regarding one's job title vs NOC.
Although a current Team leader with Customs, during last year I was reassigned for 8 months to provide training to company staff, where during such period I was also able to complete a certificate in training, and have so been accredited with the respective qualifications association.
Although upon conclusion of the training I have been sent back to my initial office, I am still responsible for training of staff should the need so arise.
In my capacity as an accredited trainer I perform most of the functions as that associated with a "College and Other Vocational Instructors" (NOC - 4131).
My question is, even if not called a vocational instructor, but a team leader, would I still be eligable under 4131 on the new list?

 

[eduardoF]

According to CIC instructions, your job must fit the "lead description" on the NOC (that's the first lines in the code, for example, for NOC 4131 that would be:

"This unit group includes instructors who teach applied arts, academic, technical and vocational subjects to students at community colleges, CEGEPs, agricultural colleges, technical and vocational institutes, language schools and other college level schools. This unit group also includes trainers who are employed by private training establishments, companies, community agencies and governments to deliver internal training or development courses. College teachers who are heads of departments are included in this group."

AND you must prove that you performed the "Main duties" listed on the NOC, for example, in NOC 4131:

"College and other vocational instructors perform some or all of the following duties:

* Teach students using a systematic plan of lectures, demonstrations, discussion groups, laboratory work, shop sessions, seminars, case studies, field assignments and independent or group projects
* Develop curriculum and prepare teaching materials and outlines for courses
* Prepare, administer and mark tests and papers to evaluate students' progress
* Advise students on program curricula and career decisions
* Provide individualized tutorial/remedial instructions
* Supervise independent or group projects, field placements, laboratory work or hands-on training
* Supervise teaching assistants
* May provide consultation services to government, business and other organizations
* May serve on committees concerned with matters such as budgets, curriculum revision, and course and diploma requirements.
* These instructors specialize in particular fields or areas of study such as visual arts, dental hygiene, welding, engineering technology, policing, computer software, management and early childhood education. "

I would like to call your attention to the fact that in NOC 4131, among the "example titles" you'll find company trainer, training officer – company, instructor – company, and training consultant – industry.

Sooo... I think if you can demonstrate what you claim you do, you should be in...

On the other hand, trying to "stretch" your actual job duties to fit the NOC could backfire. You could get grilled at the interview, or you could arrive in Canada and find yourself jobless if employees do not believe your story. And then you'll be flipping burgers and complaining about Canadians' discrimination against immigrants. So, be careful.

Good luck!

(please notice that I am only giving you a suggestion, based on my personal views. You are the sole responsible for any decision you take.)

 

[Adrian]

Thanks for the reply Eduardo, much appreciated, you put a smile on my face with reference to the "flipping burgers".
As to stretching actual job duties to fit the NOC, would not pull a stunt like that given it is not only my future at stake here, but also that of my wife and kids, thus I first felt it apt to ask "those who know" for advice.
PS: Let me know when Mcdonalds is hiring? Haha

 

[Leon]

Thanks for the reply Eduardo, much appreciated, you put a smile on my face with reference to the "flipping burgers".
As to stretching actual job duties to fit the NOC, would not pull a stunt like that given it is not only my future at stake here, but also that of my wife and kids, thus I first felt it apt to ask "those who know" for advice.
PS: Let me know when Mcdonalds is hiring? Haha

McDonalds is always hiring. So is Tim Hortons (doughnut chain) and they pay better and give you free food. Even better if you find yourself looking for an interrim job is warehouse work. Pays way better and in most cases doesn't require much muscle but since a lot of warehouses are off bus routes, you would need a car.

 

[Adrian]

Whats up Leon?

As to my initial question regarding Job title vs NOC, Eduardo was kind enough to clear up a couple of questions I had regarding the new list, but as a matter of interest should an individual eventually receive his/ her PR, would such individual be bound by any specific line of employment?
The reason I ask is that even should one's line of employment be on the list its not neccessarily true that upon arrival he or she would just walk into such a job, but may have to take up temporary employment till such time that he or she is able to secure adequate employment in the desired field.
Please advise.

 

[eduardoF]

Whats up Leon?

As to my initial question regarding Job title vs NOC, Eduardo was kind enough to clear up a couple of questions I had regarding the new list, but as a matter of interest should an individual eventually receive his/ her PR, would such individual be bound by any specific line of employment?
The reason I ask is that even should one's line of employment be on the list its not neccessarily true that upon arrival he or she would just walk into such a job, but may have to take up temporary employment till such time that he or she is able to secure adequate employment in the desired field.
Please advise.

Once you get PR, you can take any job you want.

 

[Leon]

Once you get PR, you can take any job you want.

That's right. Once you are PR, you can do whatever you want as long as you are hired of course. There are certain government jobs that PR's can not apply for. Apart from that, a PR has all the same rights to work as a citizen would.