Inland/Outland Clarification

[allsgood]

Hi. Snippit from what I posted the other day ...

... The plan is for her to return here late December, early January and do an extended NA road trip...

... if we switch to inside, the likely hood of her leaving and not being allowed in again I think is pretty slim.

My main concern is if she gets called for an interview (she's already done 1 to get her first visitors visa) we don't want to have to send her home just for that.

So my question is, can we apply as outside and request an interview if required, in another city? We will be travelling in the US or Canada by the time we get to that stage, or should we do an inside application?

The response I received was A/ Your interview has to be in country where you apply from, and B/ NO you CANNOT leave once applied for sponsorship.

Since then I stumbled onto the CIC call center number and this is what they responed with:

If you apply outland and wish to have your interview in another country, THERE IS a process for that. Most Visa offices outside of Canada are run by a third party and they are widely available. I know this personally from my wife applying for a visa in Peru.

If applying inland YOU CAN leave Canada, however you are at the mercy of the border agent to get back in. So, if you have your paperwork in order and aren't caught in a lie, you will get back in. Let's put it this way, if he/she got into Canada in the first place and he/she didn't falsify anything, why wouldn't you get back in. If you can't get back in, there is something wrong with your documents or what you told them before. All that makes more sense then not being allowed to leave at all for a family emergency or something.

If anyone has any personal experience contradicting what I was told by CIC, please respond to this post for me and others to be more aware.

Thanks

 

[Ponga]

Let's put it this way, if he/she got into Canada in the first place and he/she didn't falsify anything, why wouldn't you get back in. If you can't get back in, there is something wrong with your documents or what you told them before. All that makes more sense then not being allowed to leave at all for a family emergency or something.

You're forgetting about something called Dual Intent.

If the officer has concerns that she will NOT leave Canada voluntarily if her PR is denied, the officer may very well refuse re-entry. It wouldn't matter if she had never had issues before, because now the officer knows that she has dual intentions.

 

[Omegabyte]

There is always the possibility of an issue at the border. Coming from the US, I usually get the basic "where are you going?" questions, then I'm waved on. Last time, though, I was asked to go into secondary for my passport stamp. The CBSA officer was very brusque, even though most of the other agents knew me by name (I'm known for my sports car with vanity plates that read "PARTYON"). I have a clear history of respecting the rules, and I've never stayed one moment more than I said I would. At first, all I was going to get was a month on my passport stamp. After I mentioned that I'll just apply for an extension, she issued me a 6 month visitor record - but only after I showed her my PR app, receipt for the PR fees, medical report, and proof of my income and bank balance.

So, given that every re-entry is at the discretion of the CBSA agent you're talking to, I personally don't think that Inland would be a good idea if you know you might have to leave Canada. Add in no appeals of negative decisions, and a probable wait of 26 months?

If CIC says you can go to a visa office within Canada for an interview, then I think you could. I would think you could go to Ottawa VO, perhaps?

 

[profiler]

and a probable wait of 26 months?

Lately there is a good pickup in velocity of inlanders. Today someone from St Lucia got a landing interview appointment for next week. They applied March 27 2016

Another from Feb 2016 landed already. Many have AIP or DM from around that time.

So not all are slow. Granted that speed isn't the average yet, but it is a good sign..