Disability & Sponsorship.

[zoya_99]

My friend is on disability and he's sponsoring his spouse.

Now if/when his application will be accepted he'll be able to add his spouse on his disability payment and hence his income will go up.

Now, my question is:
Will he have to pay his spouse's income part as per sponsorship undertaking?

OR undertaking only takes effect when the spouse apply for government assistance separately?

Thanks

 

[zoya_99]

My friend is on disability and he's sponsoring his spouse.

Now if/when his application will be accepted he'll be able to add his spouse on his disability payment and hence his income will go up.

Now, my question is:
Will he have to pay his spouse's income part as per sponsorship undertaking?

OR undertaking only takes effect when the spouse apply for government assistance separately?

Thanks

 

[singleman]

My friend is on disability and he's sponsoring his spouse.

Now if/when his application will be accepted he'll be able to add his spouse on his disability payment and hence his income will go up.

Now, my question is:
Will he have to pay his spouse's income part as per sponsorship undertaking?

OR undertaking only takes effect when the spouse apply for government assistance separately?

Thanks

Disability is not an exception to avoid payments

 

[zoya_99]

Disability is not an exception to avoid payments

I didn't understand. What you mean?

 

[singleman]

I didn't understand. What you mean?

OK income will not go up but may stay the same. However if disability is by Canada Pension Plan then they do consider family members, may be not spouse but definitely any/all kids under 18 will get say around (example only)=$200/month until they reach age 18..So if disability is from some other source I doubt if they would think about family.
2nd last Q: YES disability income is not an exception for NOT paying to spousal support to my knowledge.
Rest of Qs not clear...

 

[MaryL]

Signing an undertaking is agreeing you will be responsible for your spouse' care. And not ask gov't for aide. This doesn't necessarily mean paying an income to your spouse. The spouse could & should be looking for employment of some sort to supplement the marriage.

 

[zoya_99]

Signing an undertaking is agreeing you will be responsible for your spouse' care. And not ask gov't for aide. This doesn't necessarily mean paying an income to your spouse. The spouse could & should be looking for employment of some sort to supplement the marriage.

OK income will not go up but may stay the same. However if disability is by Canada Pension Plan then they do consider family members, may be not spouse but definitely any/all kids under 18 will get say around (example only)=$200/month until they reach age 18..So if disability is from some other source I doubt if they would think about family.
2nd last Q: YES disability income is not an exception for NOT paying to spousal support to my knowledge.
Rest of Qs not clear...

I'm sorry but I think you guys didn't understand.

For eg. My friend receive ODSP amount $1000. After his spouse gets residency and spouse come over to Canada. His ODSP amount will go up, for eg: $1000 + $500= $1500.

So will my friend will have to be pay back this extra amount of $500 as per sponsorship undertaking ?

Hope it's clear now

Thanks

 

[zt2018]

Your friend needs to talk to his case worker and clarify how his spouse being under sponsorship will impact the amount he is eligible for. I've seen cases in BC when similar assistance amounts did not change when a spouse joined the household. It is defenitely government assistance, so sponsored spouse should not be eligible for it and it would be strange to increase the amount and then to ask the client to pay the difference back. But please ask your friend to talk to his case worker.

 

[canuck78]

ODSP shouldn't go up because you get married, if anything it should go down. Seems like the spouse is being paid as a caregiver and the patient will lose some support hours from the province. So to clarify the husband will get paid if less PSWs or LPNs will show up.

 

[zoya_99]

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ODSP shouldn't go up because you get married, if anything it should go down. Seems like the spouse is being paid as a caregiver and the patient will lose some support hours from the province. So to clarify the husband will get paid if less PSWs or LPNs will show up.

ofcourse it goes up when there is increase in household members and no one working.
If you see ODSP rate chart , they have different rates for single and married person

I know such case but k don't know if she had to pay the money back or not

 

[Wonderland_1010]

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ofcourse it goes up when there is increase in household members and no one working.
If you see ODSP rate chart , they have different rates for single and married person

I know such case but k don't know if she had to pay the money back or not

Increase in household will definitely affect the amount of support payment your friend receives. If your friend's spouse is determined that she can easily able to find a job then support payments can be less to what he usually receives. It will depend on the ODSP officer's review.

https://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/en/mcss/programs/social/directives/odsp/is/6_1_ODSP_ISDirectives.aspx

Sponsored Immigrants:
If an applicant/recipient is living with a defaulting sponsor (or in a place owned or controlled by the sponsor) and the sponsorship agreement is still in effect, shelter costs can only be paid if:

• the sponsor is in receipt of Ontario Works, ODSP, the Guaranteed Income Supplement under the Old Age Security Act or Gains-A;
• there is a breakdown in the sponsorship relationship due to family violence and/or abuse;
• the sponsored immigrant:
• has a legal obligation to pay shelter costs (e.g. the sponsored immigrant is a lessee or named as a co-owner on a deed/mortgage), or
• satisfies the Director that he/she will not be allowed to remain in the current residence unless he or she pays shelter costs.

Any actual support that the sponsored immigrant receives from the sponsor will be treated as income and deducted from the sponsored immigrant's income support.

Sponsored Immigrants living with their sponsors and not eligible for shelter costs
Where the sponsored immigrant is living with his/her sponsor and is not eligible for shelter costs, income support will be reduced.

The income support will be reduced by the greater of:

• the amount the sponsor is paying to the applicant/recipient, and
• the amount of income support that would otherwise be calculated under section 30 of the ODSP Regulation less the applicable basic needs amount.

Example 1
A single recipient who is living with his/her sponsor, not eligible for shelter costs, and not receiving any funds from the sponsor will have their income support calculated in the following manner:

$1,169 - Amount single recipient receives under s. 30
$672 - Less: basic needs amount for single recipient
$497 - Amount calculated under ODSP Reg. s.40

Income support is calculated as follows:

$672 - Basic needs
$497 - Plus: Shelter
$497 - Less: Amount calculated under ODSP Reg. s. 40
$672 - Total Income Support

A single recipient in a board and lodge situation receives income support in the amount of $399 ($896 less the amount calculated under ODSP Reg. s.40 which is $497).

Example 2

Income support for a single recipient who is living rent-free with the sponsor and receiving $100 support is calculated as follows

$672 - Basic needs
$100 - Less: Sponsorship support
$572 - Total Income Support

 

[canuck78]

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ofcourse it goes up when there is increase in household members and no one working.
If you see ODSP rate chart , they have different rates for single and married person

I know such case but k don't know if she had to pay the money back or not

Would only go up if there was a dependent added (like a child). When adding an able bodied spouse they will definitely not receive more aid. They will be lucky to receive the same amount. The able bodies spouse is expected to go out and find a job. Marriage for some chronically ill or disabled individuals can affect the amount of monthly benefits they receive but also may affect they housing situation. Very dependent on r=the individual case. Would recommend speaking to your social worker or community worker.

 

[zoya_99]

Would only go up if there was a dependent added (like a child). When adding an able bodied spouse they will definitely not receive more aid. They will be lucky to receive the same amount. The able bodies spouse is expected to go out and find a job. Marriage for some chronically ill or disabled individuals can affect the amount of monthly benefits they receive but also may affect they housing situation. Very dependent on r=the individual case. Would recommend speaking to your social worker or community worker.

Thanks.

It çan affect housing situation? Means?