British passport scanning.....

[pinklady]

Does anyone know with certainty what UK immigration can see when a British citizen enters UK with a British passport. When it is scanned either by a human of the new machine scanners does it just bring up information that is already visible on the passport i.e. name, DOB, the photo, or does it register the date you re-enter the UK aswell?

Any insight would be much appreciated.

I am of the impression it does not register your movement in and out of countries, the immigration stamps in the actual passport from other countries do that. But I have no proof.

Thoughts?

 

[Baloo]

They get to see more than what is on the passport.
The E-Borders programme is meant to track and store the international travel records of anyone passing through UK immigration.
The computerised records may be stored for up to 10 years.

Oh, and if your flight passes over any part of the USA, they get your details before you take off.

 

[pinklady]

So when a British citizen with a british passport returns to Britain after a holiday abroad, wherever, the scanning logs the date of return to their home country correct.

Can you tell me where you found this information?

 

[Baloo]

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/workingwithus/transportindustry/ebordersrequires/legalpowers/

 

[pinklady]

Appreciated, but I couldnt find the specifics I was looking for.
Thanks

 

[Baloo]

There was some talk of integration of EU systems, but I have no idea if it was implemented.
The UK is aware of UK north American arrivals and departures, they gather that information.
I doubt that the US shares all the info that they gather.


What specifics do you need?

 

[pinklady]

I want to know if IPS can scan my passport and see when I last entered the UK.

 

[Baloo]

I want to know if IPS can scan my passport and see when I last entered the UK.

Sure they can, why would you doubt that?

Immigration and Passport Service have access to the data for up to ten years (if they abide by the rules).

 

[kelKel]

Sure they can, why would you doubt that?

Immigration and Passport Service have access to the data for up to ten years (if they abide by the rules).

The link you provided that all this information is compiled and shared to other border services/intelligence agencies when requested for security purposes.

 

[pinklady]

Because I don't know how much the government keeps tabs on people.
So, to be clear, when I arrive at manchester and go through the bio metric passport scanning machine, ( I don't even speak to a human IO) it digitally marks the passport with the date of arrival.
Correct?

 

[Baloo]

Because I don't know how much the government keeps tabs on people.
So, to be clear, when I arrive at manchester and go through the bio metric passport scanning machine, ( I don't even speak to a human IO) it digitally marks the passport with the date of arrival.
Correct?

No, the information is stored on a computer in a database.
There is not much storage on your passport.
The chip in your passport contains files that hold the printed details shown on the passport, the person's photograph and security technology to detect if those files have been altered.

 

[pinklady]

So, i arrive in manchester, everything is all good, then a few weeks later I go to IPS because I am changing the name on my passport. They scan it and they can see the date I last entered the UK. The information appears on their computer screen? Because when I arrived in england, the passport being scanned pulls up my computer records and updates them right?
I must sound pretty dumb, but just want to be clear.
Its making sense to me now.

 

[Baloo]

So, i arrive in manchester, everything is all good, then a few weeks later I go to IPS because I am changing the name on my passport. They scan it and they can see the date I last entered the UK. The information appears on their computer screen? Because when I arrived in england, the passport being scanned pulls up my computer records and updates them right?
I must sound pretty dumb, but just want to be clear.
Its making sense to me now.

Yes.

I've just sent you a PM

 

[Baloo]

At an immigration desk, the optical character reader scans the MRZ (the characters along the edge) and gets the passport security key.
The RFID chip is unlocked, and the information on the chip is matched with that on the passport.


Oh, just a quick note, the RFID chip on your passport,... that technology has been hacked - way back in 2007.

 

[Jurjen]

Yep, someone in the UK actually made a great documentary on how easy it is to get access to the chip and rewrite it with your own data. Look up "Suspect Nation" by Henry Porter.

It's now so easy to commit passport fraud, because the government organizations just think their technology is foolproof.