ATT: aamro1992 and tiger

[S Uddin]

Can you tell me which one year course is more demand in Canada

I am planning to do chef or cook

But pls advise me thanks

Also if you know any site from where I can see which provience needs which more chef it would be help for me

Thanks

 

[tiger007]

Can you tell me which one year course is more demand in Canada

I am planning to do chef or cook

But pls advise me thanks

Also if you know any site from where I can see which provience needs which more chef it would be help for me

Thanks

Hi,

Chefs (NOC 6321) and cooks (NOC 6322) are NOC B category skilled trade (services) occupations.
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/Profile.aspx?val=6&val1=6321
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/Profile.aspx?val=6&val1=6322

Qualified Chefs and cooks will be in demand across Canada for coming years.
According to Service Canada: The restaurant industry should continue to benefit from the modest growth expected over the forecast period (2011-2015).
http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/qc/job_futures/statistics/6241.shtml

The prairie provinces which has been witnessing high growth, particularly Alberta (with an established tourism sector) is indeed a great place to study culinary arts and take advantage of their PNP - Compulsory and optional trades criteria to migrate as a chef/cook, where after finishing the course and getting job offer (as an apprentice), youc an directly apply for PNP nomination(no need to work for certian months) and then apply for PR.
To know more: http://www.albertacanada.com/immigration/immigrating/ainp-srs-compulsory-optional-trades-criteria.aspx
Since, Chef & cook is a skilled trade occupation, different provinces have certification and required apprenticeship rules to become a qualified chef/cook. Information can be found on different provincial skilled trade education and employment websites. For example: detailed info for practicing trade in Alberta can be found on trade Alberta site: http://tradesecrets.alberta.ca/

Another province with greater demand and openings for culinary professionals is Ontario.
To know more about skilled trades and apprenticeship in Ontario visit: http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/eng/apprentices/

B.C also has a well established tourism industry, where culinary arts programme is a bit different with 3 levels which student has to be registered with their studies and subsequent apprenticeship.
To know more about trade practice in B.C : http://www.tradestrainingbc.ca/
The Vancouver Island Univ. (VIU) offers a well structured AND 1 OF MOST REPUTED culinary programmes: (1 year cetificate) or a 2 years (diploma) as per requiremtns of B.C trade practices. You can see their programme description to get the idea of how a cook/chef cmpletes eductaion/aprrenticeship and eventually become certified. http://www.viu.ca/culinary/index.asp

Apart from Alberta, Ontario and B.C you can also consider studying in Atlantic provinces such as in Holland college in Prince Edward Island or NSCC in Nova Scotia.
You may also consider Quebec, where Professional Cooking (DVS - 1,350 hours / 1.5 years) (of actual 12-13 months length), and carries 12 points under area of training. You can easily apply for immigration even without a job offer while half your studies are over, provided you can score total minimum 55 points under Regular programme for International students. But to score 55 points, usually Basic A1 level french and/or beginner level A2 French knowledge is required. Remember, in Quebec... even students of pvt. post-secondary colleges, pursuing a recognized programme of atleast 900 hours length or more are eligible for PGWP (not OCWP).

After fulfilling apprenticeship+ education requirements, one can appear for inter-provincial red seal certified trade examination.
To know more about Red Seal certification: http://www.red-seal.ca/

Many colleges offer certified 1 or 2 years culinary arts certificate or diploma as per their provincial educational requirements. After studying such course, you will need to find apprenticeship (ur 1st actual job), do it for certain time frame(as required by different provinces)...and as you progress, gain experience and finally complete your apprenticeship, then at the end appear for red seal exam. Although Red seal is NOT compulsory... but tradespeople with Red seal certification are highly valued in Canada (thus more opportunities, higher wages etc.) , as it is a standard benchmark for quality tradespeople and can practice their trade across Canada without any restriction or need to appear for certification in different province. Public colleges also offer direct cook apprenticeship programmes of few weeks, which are ONLY open to Canadians..

According to http://www.culinaryschools.org/international/canada-cooking-schools/: Most top grade culinary colleges in Canada are private (except for Holland college, PEI) , where studying means you won't be eligible for OCWP or possibly PGWP and PNP... However, you need to confirm on that. Although it's possible to get work permit by bagging a job with a Canadian employer (ready to sponsor you/ secure LMO for you).. work there for atleats 1 year and then apply for PR under CEC as a foreign worker.
So, as an international student it's better... to do a 1 or 2 year culinary art certificate/diploma form a recognized college, participating under OCWP+PGWP.
Here's the list of all recognized educational institutes listed province wise: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/institutions/participants.asp
Majority of public colleges offer 1 or 2 years culinary arts programme.

But Also according to : http://www.culinaryschools.org/international/canada-cooking-schools/, some of top Canadian PUBLIC colleges (eligible for OCWP+PGWP) offering culinary art programmes are:
Holland College - Charlottetown, PEI - 2 years culinary arts diploma (http://www.hollandcollege.com/admissions/full_time_programs/culinary_arts/)
Canadore College - North Bay, Ontario - 2 years Culinary Administration
(http://www.canadorec.on.ca/programs-courses/culinary-skills-%E2%80%93-chef)
(http://www.canadorec.on.ca/programs-courses/culinary-management)
George Brown College - Toronto, Ontario - 1 year Chef Training, 2 years Culinary Management
(http://www.georgebrown.ca/H112-2013-2014/)
(http://www.georgebrown.ca/H100-2013-2014/)
Loyalist College - Belleville, Ontario - 1 year Culinary Skills, 2 years Culinary Management (http://www.loyalistcollege.com/programs-and-courses/full-time-programs/culinary-skills--chef-training)
Okanagan University College - Kelowna, British Columbia - Culinary Arts (http://www.okanagan.bc.ca/departments/trades/departments/culinary/programs/certificate.html)
Vancouver Island University - Nanaimo, British Columbia - 1 & 2 years Culinary Arts (http://www.viu.ca/culinary/index.asp)
(I'll highly reccomend... to apply in above colleges, especially Holland College (i.e if you are willing to go to PEI and do a 2 years course)).
and
SAIT - Calgary, Alberta - Culinary Arts (only offers apprenticeship programmes as cook)
(http://www.sait.ca/programs-and-courses/apprenticeships-and-trades/apprenticeships/apprenticeship-cook-apprentice.php)

You can also consider some of other culinary courses offered by recognized public colleges in Canada such as:
NAIT, Edmonton, Alberta
Nova Scotia Community College, NS
Niagara College, Ontario
Northwest community college, B.C
North island College, B.C
Red River College, Winnipeg, Manitoba
Lethbridge college, Lethbridge, Alberta
SIAST, Saskatchewan etc. etc.

It is reccomended to pursue a 2 acd. years/ 4 sem(or terms)/min. actual 16 months of study programme (or usually 20 months with 1 term break between 1st and 2nd year... where in vacation you can legally work full time with a valid OCWP), from one of the above colleges so that, not only you will be eligible for a 3 years PGWP, which will give you more than enough time to pursue your apprenticeship, certification and apply for PR but also a 2 years diploma programme in culinary arts will provide deeper knowledge, foundation skills and completing a 2 years course will mean that you will be required to work less hours as an apprentice to get your province certification.

You should select top 3-4 colleges of your choice, apply and start your admission process right away for the Sept. 2013 intake

Hope it helps.

Best of Luck.




**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too

 

[S Uddin]

dear tiger thanks for your reply to be honest i dont have very good english like you, although from nova scotia website i knew that if i complite 1 year course then ofcourse i will get one year work permit then if i work as a cook three months and have parmanent job offer in my study field i mean cock then i could apply pnp of nova scotia which takes only two month to finalize.

but still i am not clear about what is red seal and what is nova scotia Apprenticeship Training Division,

after complite my study do i have to take Apprenticeship Training from nova scotia Apprenticeship Training Division or i have to register red seal

or it is like smple: finish study nova stotia apply w p got experience apply P N P of nova scotia when it approve then apply canada PR.

kindly reply

 

[tiger007]

dear tiger thanks for your reply to be honest i dont have very good english like you, although from nova scotia website i knew that if i complite 1 year course then ofcourse i will get one year work permit then if i work as a cook three months and have parmanent job offer in my study field i mean cock then i could apply pnp of nova scotia which takes only two month to finalize.

but still i am not clear about what is red seal and what is nova scotia Apprenticeship Training Division,

after complite my study do i have to take Apprenticeship Training from nova scotia Apprenticeship Training Division or i have to register red seal

or it is like smple: finish study nova stotia apply w p got experience apply P N P of nova scotia when it approve then apply canada PR.

kindly reply

Hi,

Don't worry too much about apprenticeship and red seal certification now. If doing 1 year course and settling in Nova Scotia province is your aim, then you should consider pursuing 1 year cooking course at Nova Scotia Community college (NSCC).
Here's the course link: http://www.nscc.ca/learning_programs/programs/PlanDescr.aspx?prg=COOK&pln=COOKING

As you join and progress in your course, you will eventually come to know all apprenticeship details and gradually get prepared for the red seal certification. Nova Scotia is indeed a good province for people with 1 year PGWP, where after working (which can also be a paid apprenticeship) only for 3 months will make you eligible for their PNP nomination.

Best of Luck.


**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too

 

[S Uddin]

Thanks for your reply i am going to soon apply for admission

One more thing do you work as a immigration agent , if yes then I want to be your clint
And want to process my application by ur advise.

Sorry for asking this but truely ur knowledge impress me a lot
That's why.

Kindly reply
Thanks

 

[tiger007]

Thanks for your reply i am going to soon apply for admission

One more thing do you work as a immigration agent , if yes then I want to be your clint
And want to process my application by ur advise.

Sorry for asking this but truely ur knowledge impress me a lot
That's why.

Kindly reply
Thanks

Hi,

No, I'm not an immigration agent. Do you think immigration agents will have time and enthusiasm to give around free advice on this or any forum? : All they would do is advertise their services.

Frankly... if you are from India, you really don't need an agent. Everything is given clearly on college and CIC website. All you've to do is take admission, get offer letter from the college and follow the guideline/ prepare application according to the checklist of generic category (since NSCC is not a participating college under SPP).
http://www.vfs-canada.co.in/pdf/study_permit_20-09-2012.pdf

Best of luck.


**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too

 

[S Uddin]

dea tiger thanks for your reply
i am sorry due to asking that do u work as immigration agent. again sorry for that

do you mind to tell me what is this meaning (since NSCC is not a participating college under SPP).

today i apply to nscc for admission, is this college ok for international student

it would be really helpful for me if you kindly reply.

 

[evanstp9]

Hi,

Chefs (NOC 6321) and cooks (NOC 6322) are NOC B category skilled trade (services) occupations.
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/Profile.aspx?val=6&val1=6321
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/Profile.aspx?val=6&val1=6322

Qualified Chefs and cooks will be in demand across Canada for coming years.
According to Service Canada: The restaurant industry should continue to benefit from the modest growth expected over the forecast period (2011-2015).
http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/qc/job_futures/statistics/6241.shtml

The prairie provinces which has been witnessing high growth, particularly Alberta (with an established tourism sector) is indeed a great place to study culinary arts and take advantage of their PNP - Compulsory and optional trades criteria to migrate as a chef/cook, where after finishing the course and getting job offer (as an apprentice), youc an directly apply for PNP nomination(no need to work for certian months) and then apply for PR.
To know more: http://www.albertacanada.com/immigration/immigrating/ainp-srs-compulsory-optional-trades-criteria.aspx
Since, Chef & cook is a skilled trade occupation, different provinces have certification and required apprenticeship rules to become a qualified chef/cook. Information can be found on different provincial skilled trade education and employment websites. For example: detailed info for practicing trade in Alberta can be found on trade Alberta site: http://tradesecrets.alberta.ca/

Another province with greater demand and openings for culinary professionals is Ontario.
To know more about skilled trades and apprenticeship in Ontario visit: http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/eng/apprentices/

B.C also has a well established tourism industry, where culinary arts programme is a bit different with 3 levels which student has to be registered with their studies and subsequent apprenticeship.
To know more about trade practice in B.C : http://www.tradestrainingbc.ca/
The Vancouver Island Univ. (VIU) offers a well structured AND 1 OF MOST REPUTED culinary programmes: (1 year cetificate) or a 2 years (diploma) as per requiremtns of B.C trade practices. You can see their programme description to get the idea of how a cook/chef cmpletes eductaion/aprrenticeship and eventually become certified. http://www.viu.ca/culinary/index.asp

Apart from Alberta, Ontario and B.C you can also consider studying in Atlantic provinces such as in Holland college in Prince Edward Island or NSCC in Nova Scotia.
You may also consider Quebec, where Professional Cooking (DVS - 1,350 hours / 1.5 years) (of actual 12-13 months length), and carries 12 points under area of training. You can easily apply for immigration even without a job offer while half your studies are over, provided you can score total minimum 55 points under Regular programme for International students. But to score 55 points, usually Basic A1 level french and/or beginner level A2 French knowledge is required. Remember, in Quebec... even students of pvt. post-secondary colleges, pursuing a recognized programme of atleast 900 hours length or more are eligible for PGWP (not OCWP).

After fulfilling apprenticeship+ education requirements, one can appear for inter-provincial red seal certified trade examination.
To know more about Red Seal certification: http://www.red-seal.ca/

Many colleges offer certified 1 or 2 years culinary arts certificate or diploma as per their provincial educational requirements. After studying such course, you will need to find apprenticeship (ur 1st actual job), do it for certain time frame(as required by different provinces)...and as you progress, gain experience and finally complete your apprenticeship, then at the end appear for red seal exam. Although Red seal is NOT compulsory... but tradespeople with Red seal certification are highly valued in Canada (thus more opportunities, higher wages etc.) , as it is a standard benchmark for quality tradespeople and can practice their trade across Canada without any restriction or need to appear for certification in different province. Public colleges also offer direct cook apprenticeship programmes of few weeks, which are ONLY open to Canadians..

According to http://www.culinaryschools.org/international/canada-cooking-schools/: Most top grade culinary colleges in Canada are private (except for Holland college, PEI) , where studying means you won't be eligible for OCWP or possibly PGWP and PNP... However, you need to confirm on that. Although it's possible to get work permit by bagging a job with a Canadian employer (ready to sponsor you/ secure LMO for you).. work there for atleats 1 year and then apply for PR under CEC as a foreign worker.
So, as an international student it's better... to do a 1 or 2 year culinary art certificate/diploma form a recognized college, participating under OCWP+PGWP.
Here's the list of all recognized educational institutes listed province wise: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/institutions/participants.asp
Majority of public colleges offer 1 or 2 years culinary arts programme.

But Also according to : http://www.culinaryschools.org/international/canada-cooking-schools/, some of top Canadian PUBLIC colleges (eligible for OCWP+PGWP) offering culinary art programmes are:
Holland College - Charlottetown, PEI - 2 years culinary arts diploma (http://www.hollandcollege.com/admissions/full_time_programs/culinary_arts/)
Canadore College - North Bay, Ontario - 2 years Culinary Administration
(http://www.canadorec.on.ca/programs-courses/culinary-skills-%E2%80%93-chef)
(http://www.canadorec.on.ca/programs-courses/culinary-management)
George Brown College - Toronto, Ontario - 1 year Chef Training, 2 years Culinary Management
(http://www.georgebrown.ca/H112-2013-2014/)
(http://www.georgebrown.ca/H100-2013-2014/)
Loyalist College - Belleville, Ontario - 1 year Culinary Skills, 2 years Culinary Management (http://www.loyalistcollege.com/programs-and-courses/full-time-programs/culinary-skills--chef-training)
Okanagan University College - Kelowna, British Columbia - Culinary Arts (http://www.okanagan.bc.ca/departments/trades/departments/culinary/programs/certificate.html)
Vancouver Island University - Nanaimo, British Columbia - 1 & 2 years Culinary Arts (http://www.viu.ca/culinary/index.asp)
(I'll highly reccomend... to apply in above colleges, especially Holland College (i.e if you are willing to go to PEI and do a 2 years course)).
and
SAIT - Calgary, Alberta - Culinary Arts (only offers apprenticeship programmes as cook)
(http://www.sait.ca/programs-and-courses/apprenticeships-and-trades/apprenticeships/apprenticeship-cook-apprentice.php)

You can also consider some of other culinary courses offered by recognized public colleges in Canada such as:
NAIT, Edmonton, Alberta
Nova Scotia Community College, NS
Niagara College, Ontario
Northwest community college, B.C
North island College, B.C
Red River College, Winnipeg, Manitoba
Lethbridge college, Lethbridge, Alberta
SIAST, Saskatchewan etc. etc.

It is reccomended to pursue a 2 acd. years/ 4 sem(or terms)/min. actual 16 months of study programme (or usually 20 months with 1 term break between 1st and 2nd year... where in vacation you can legally work full time with a valid OCWP), from one of the above colleges so that, not only you will be eligible for a 3 years PGWP, which will give you more than enough time to pursue your apprenticeship, certification and apply for PR but also a 2 years diploma programme in culinary arts will provide deeper knowledge, foundation skills and completing a 2 years course will mean that you will be required to work less hours as an apprentice to get your province certification.

You should select top 3-4 colleges of your choice, apply and start your admission process right away for the Sept. 2013 intake

Hope it helps.

Best of Luck.




**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too

excellent post dear tiger... do you have any knowledge on the demand as well regarding computer systems/network technician? would be appreciated!

 

[aamro1992]

excellent post dear tiger... do you have any knowledge on the demand as well regarding computer systems/network technician? would be appreciated!

I just got a booklet from a book fair and yes there is enough demand. I saw almost 19 job openings for computer technicians from a possible 45

 

[tiger007]

do you mind to tell me what is this meaning (since NSCC is not a participating college under SPP).
today i apply to nscc for admission, is this college ok for international student

Hi,
You are from which country?
SPP is a special visa category (with limited colleges/universities participating under this programme) for students of India and China. It facilitates lesser paper work and possibly faster processing of application.

NSCC is a good college, offering reputed 1 year cooking programme.

Best of Luck.


**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too

 

[S Uddin]

Thanks tiger
I am from bangladesh
My ielts 6 overall
I am showing $38000 student loan in my name from my mother account
I am showing $13000 last five month bank statement in account
I am paying half year college fees advance


Thanks

 

[tiger007]

Thanks tiger
I am from bangladesh
My ielts 6 overall
I am showing $38000 student loan in my name from my mother account
I am showing $13000 last five month bank statement in account
I am paying half year college fees advance


Thanks

Hi,
You have to prepare your application package, as per the checklist required by CHC for students from Bangladesh.

Here's the checklist: http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/singapore-singapour/assets/pdfs/visas/53_1_eng.pdf

More information can be found on VFS-Canada Bangladesh site: http://www.vfs-canada.com.bd/checklists.aspx



**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too

 

[S Uddin]

dear tiger007 many thanks for that

do you think i am showing enough founds for my visa
my total fees is 8500+living cost 10000 + return ticket 3000 so talal 21500

and i am showing 38000 student loan in my name from my mom account
13000 bank statement in my account last five month

thanks

 

[just_do_it]

dear tiger thanks for your reply to be honest i dont have very good english like you, although from nova scotia website i knew that if i complite 1 year course then ofcourse i will get one year work permit then if i work as a cook three months and have parmanent job offer in my study field i mean cock then i could apply pnp of nova scotia which takes only two month to finalize.

There's already enough of those in Canada....

Hahaha, sorry dude. I just had to.. couldn't help it.

but cooks/ Chefs are definitely in high demand... just not cocks. LOL

 

[tiger007]

dear tiger007 many thanks for that

do you think i am showing enough founds for my visa
my total fees is 8500+living cost 10000 + return ticket 3000 so talal 21500

and i am showing 38000 student loan in my name from my mom account
13000 bank statement in my account last five month

thanks

Hi,

Again.. see the checklist: http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/singapore-singapour/assets/pdfs/visas/53_1_eng.pdf
and apply accordingly.

Here under Proof of sufficient funds written:
Evidence of accumulated funds that show a history of at least six months. In order to demonstrate this, we
require all of the following:
• copy of bank book/statement showing financial history and the account balance over the past six (6) months
• a written explanation as to the source of funds
Documents pertaining to other types of assets such as stock market/investment accounts, bonds, real
estate/property, income from rental properties, proof of pension, business transactions may be included,
although these should not be used to replace the documents requested above
If no clear documentary evidence is available, you may provide a written explanation

Also, you have to give "Evidence of your parents' income/employment".


Best of Luck.


**All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too